Bring Back Papers~
 

Are there records that show how many firearms and what kind were brought back by our troops? The coincidance is the artillery is also 3097. Although I purchased it from George Anderson, he assures me there is no connection~ Nice~

Eric, I doubt it.

Te papers were issued at a field officer level to permit the soldier to re-enter the USA with his captured firearm.

It wasn't US Government property and our government had no need to track it.

We've always had an aversion to "registration" in any form, so I doubt any further record was made of the gun.

TKS, It is nice to have~

Now our aversion is bringing back firearms or even bayonets. Sad that we are short changing today's servicemen on their combat trophies.

I know there are some [especially on GB] who think the bringback papers "add to the value of the Luger", but I have never thought that. They just show who originally owned it (besides the German).

Think about it - Do you show your present wife your first marriage certificate and tell her that it adds immeasurable value to that marriage??? Do you display it with the picture of your first wife???

Of course not! It's just a piece of paper, worthless now, since it no longer belongs to you. The Luger or the wife. :rolleyes:

Now, if it was the bringback paper that your father/granddad brought back with the Luger you inherited, then it would be like his wife [your mother/grandmother] and their marriage certificate. You would display it proudly - it's your family!!! :thumbup:

Someone else's bringback paper is someone else's family. Why would you care about a marriage certificate from some guy you never heard of??? Or his wife's picture??? Makes no sense. :confused:

First, I posted it for the coincidence. Multible lugers share the same serial number. Its just another part of luger history that deserves to be shown!! I am sure that it might be the first time seen by some of us as it was for me! I fail to understand your analogy~ I'm on my third wedding licence and 2 divorse decrees! And survived so far with all my Lugers!

Most collectors think "papers" add to the value of the piece; especially if the serial number is noted.

We've had this discussion ad infinitum on the Japanese board, but regarding "how much" more not "if". Depending on lots of stuff, papers add $25 to $500 in some opinions.

I like them and would like to have a luger with papers.

Theres More Than One Born Every Second~!

Call "them" what you will; many will put their money where their mouth is- I like to call those "customers"! ;)

I would not pay anything for any bringback paper, because they are too easy to fake. Old paper is readily accessible, and typewriter font (or even typewriters) are available as well. It's too easy to print up a fraudulent bringback paper and claim it's original. :(

One thing to look for in bringback papers is whether the writing is done with a ballpoint pen. As Eric's paper in post #1 shows, they were not yet in general use in WW II.

Good,
that leaves more for the rest and less competition!:banghead:

I agree they are interesting but to me add no value. There has been so many faked that who knows what is real? I have an old typewriter and a few fountain pens so how many do you want? Bill

I purchased it from George Anderson along with the artillery luger although not associated with the gun! Its old, real, fragile, folded and 2 different types of ink and two different handwriting styles by two different scriveners~Enlarge it 2X and then examine it!~Eric

Bill,
It is kind of like a "fake" luger, if you can't tell the difference it does not matter.

Fortunately is is pretty easy to sort the new from the old, and the fake from the real.

If "we" had the same attitude on the luger pistol, we could not collect them- because it is too easy and too many have been faked over the years!:cheers:

Of course it is "real", point is that some folks don't collect paper because they think it is worthless or silly.

They probably never collected stamps either.:o

George has always taken good care of me! I'm in his luger debt!!!

I don't doubt that it is real. The fountain pen writing was the first thing I noticed. ;)

Watching classic WW II movies this last week and seeing Richard Burton pull a ball point pen out of his pocket and write a name in his notebook brought a smile to my face. :D

To my way of thinking, bringback papers are only useful if you're making a display or a diorama. It's another accessory, like cartridges or a cleaning rod. It looks nice, but it doesn't really add any value to the Luger itself.

If these are worth $500, then maybe I'm wasting my time making long-barrel pistols. I could retire making bringback papers. ;)

I found another~No raised seal~http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...ure-paperwork/ Identical!

Sure you can. I understand State gives you three square meals a day plus a roof over your head and clean linen :evilgrin:

And We Earned It!!

Another~http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...ure-paperwork/

Further confirms the futility of giving price ranges, no one sees the range:
$0 to $500 just becomes $500!

I give up.

Don
I feel pretty confident on a fake luger. Not always but generally.. Paper is another thing. If the paper is old., signed with a fountain pen you may be the only person who can tell if it is real. Most of the correct ?? capture papers I have seen have turned brown and in pretty bad shape. I was told once that the white clean papers were probably fake?? Again who knows?? Not me. Bill

Bill I agree, paper is another thing. I like to get them free; they would have to be pretty "special" to pay extra for them, but under some circumstances - I absolutely would.

I never said I was an expert, I can tell good papers from bad papers pretty easily, but very good bad papers are like very good bad lugers, they can fool most of the people some of the time or is it some of the people all of the time, but not every one all the time.:confused:

Anyway, if one likes papers great- if you don't - fine.:cheers:

But they are not worthless to many collectors.:banghead:

Bill, the first photo was digitally enhanced for contrast and detail. The second one above was taken and made outside with Florida indirect light! It is natural light brownish from age as evident and displayed and accuratly shown in the first picture itself! The second was whitened for contrast! A good observation!! Eric~

It was given to me by one of my Heros so to me it's priceless!!~Eric

Why, does it matter that much!!OK Its Fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gentlemen... let's tone it back a few notches... nobody needs to delete any posts. Like elbows, we all have opinions, and like it or not, everyone's opinion carries the same weight. Arguing the point serves no one.

Bringing All Together~
 

Perfect Fit! The End!

Relatives inheritances, of course. What other circumstances can you think of??? :)

I would like to be George Andersons' heirs~~

In no particular order: Papers that were/are:
-captured in/near a significant battle or location
-named to a historic figure
-part and parcel of a rig or group of items that interest me and
also described on the paper
-WWI paper of any sort
-any dated during the hostilities and not after the war was "over"

probably some I have not thought of.

What happened to the poll??

I took it down, Bill. Percentages were not right (more than 100%) and the "paper work" was entertaining but seemed to annoy several people... :D

I might have screwed up the percentages myself; I had left the poll so that you could vote more than once. :rolleyes:

If you'd like to put up another poll, I'm still interested... :)

Sorry. It has been deleted.