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alanint 02-15-2016 08:42 PM

Anyone want Albert Speer's "Artillery" Luger?
 
Interesting, aside from the misidentification as an "Artillery".

http://jamesdjulia.com/item/2621-391/

DavidJayUden 02-15-2016 09:24 PM

An interesting and beautiful Luger, to be sure.
dju

OIF2 02-15-2016 09:28 PM

Wonder if he shot it?
Bob

lugerholsterrepair 02-15-2016 09:52 PM

Is there some valid reason for this to be in the for sale section?

DonVoigt 02-15-2016 10:20 PM

Beautiful piece, but where is the connection to Speer? No provenance; anyone can engrave a name in grips!

I seriously doubt a high ranking official would have been given a 1920/1921 dated luger with mixed magazines! A new made Mauser Luger perhaps; but an old luger from a hated(by the Nazis) government of Germany????

lugerholsterrepair 02-15-2016 10:26 PM

Pure fantasy on the Speer connection. Speer was a small man and a high official. IF he ever had any pistol it was no larger than a PPk.

Edward Tinker 02-15-2016 11:11 PM

I could see someone getting a fancy gun as a presentation; but I too feel that if anything was given, it would be a brand new weapon or refurbished to the point of no previous markings on it - unless of course it had been 'theirs' in previous years...

I have seen several 'presentation' pistols for sale that I felt were likely not real presentation guns.

BY the way, I moved this to the General section, but can understand why it was put in the for sale area :D

LU1900 02-15-2016 11:23 PM

Need to use Speer bullet only perhaps :D

Ron Wood 02-16-2016 12:11 AM

It may be pure fantasy with regard to the Speer connection, but it is a top quality superb example of a custom gun with master level engraving. Did you notice the full length rib on the barrel? That is no hack job. Somebody sometime put some extensive work into creating this piece. If I was rich and had no reservation about spending money, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

Zorba 02-16-2016 02:22 AM

Nice piece. I guess they had to put Speer's name on it since my Luger belonged to one A. Hitler! :roflmao:

Sergio Natali 02-16-2016 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 284234)
Pure fantasy on the Speer connection. Speer was a small man and a high official. IF he ever had any pistol it was no larger than a PPk.

In my opinion it's a work of art, really, but I share Jerry's and other people's point of view about "the story".

Diver6106 02-16-2016 10:39 AM

It could have been made for Speer, but it was never given to him and he never fired it. Oh, and he never knew about it...

cirelaw 02-16-2016 11:09 AM

Its better off without the association~

sheepherder 02-16-2016 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zormpas (Post 284242)
Nice piece. I guess they had to put Speer's name on it since my Luger belonged to one A. Hitler! :roflmao:

I have Yamamoto's artillery Nambu... :rolleyes:

Zorba 02-16-2016 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 284262)
I have Yamamoto's artillery Nambu... :rolleyes:

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

rhuff 02-16-2016 02:49 PM

It is a beautiful Luger...Speer or no Speer. That engraving was done by a master engraver, and the whole package is excellent in my eyes. I know some folks don't care for engraved guns, but if they are done correctly, they really appeal to me. This one is way out of my league price wise!!

cirelaw 02-16-2016 02:54 PM

Beware of engraved lugers~~ http://www.leibnitz-online.de/resour...17.09.04-1.pdf

Sergio Natali 02-17-2016 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw (Post 284270)

Yes long ago I think posted that piece too, and probably it's a good thing to re-read it sometimes.

Regards.

alanint 02-17-2016 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 284232)
Is there some valid reason for this to be in the for sale section?

Hmm, because the item is for sale and someone here might want to bid on it?

lugerholsterrepair 02-17-2016 11:45 AM

Auctions are prohibited on the for sale section.. This is the "for sale" part of the Forum. NOT an "alert to any auction on Planet Earth section" It is meant for the use of our Members who have items they would like to offer to other Members. It is REQUIRED by our rules to have a set price. It IS NOT an auction. Your post violates all of these precepts. Please read the FORUM RULES you agreed to abide by.

rolandtg 02-17-2016 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zormpas (Post 284242)
Nice piece. I guess they had to put Speer's name on it since my Luger belonged to one A. Hitler! :roflmao:

While visiting a local gun shop recently I was asking about any Lugers they had. The owner turned around and grabbed a plastic cup full of parts and said "just this one".

The cup contained what appeared to be most of a Luger in pieces.
On the grip strap of the frame was stamped "A. Hitler".

(I've been meaning to stop back by the shop and get a photo of the frame just for laughs.)

So don't try to pass off your Luger as belonging to Hitler 'cause I know where his real Luger is! :roflmao:

Zorba 02-17-2016 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolandtg (Post 284299)
While visiting a local gun shop recently I was asking about any Lugers they had. The owner turned around and grabbed a plastic cup full of parts and said "just this one".

The cup contained what appeared to be most of a Luger in pieces.
On the grip strap of the frame was stamped "A. Hitler".

(I've been meaning to stop back by the shop and get a photo of the frame just for laughs.)

So don't try to pass off your Luger as belonging to Hitler 'cause I know where his real Luger is! :roflmao:

Snort!

Pictures, or it didn't happen... (!!!) :D:D:D:D:evilgrin::evilgrin::evilgrin:

sheepherder 02-17-2016 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolandtg (Post 284299)
The cup contained what appeared to be most of a Luger in pieces.

Did you ask what his price was for the pieces??? I need pieces...(Although I'm a Scorpio)... :rolleyes:

alanint 02-17-2016 02:17 PM

Well, I'll try to toe the line next time.

lugerholsterrepair 02-17-2016 02:54 PM

It's the right thing to do! Thanks

Karl 02-17-2016 07:49 PM

Looks like a DWM upper on a Mauser lower (note Mauser hump).
KFS

DonVoigt 02-17-2016 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl (Post 284313)
Looks like a DWM upper on a Mauser lower (note Mauser hump).
KFS

That is what I see too; only DWM would have produced a receiver dated 1921, and there is the Mauser hump.

aldo35 02-21-2016 08:26 PM

Speer's Luger
 
This pistol sold for $10,950. The provenance was not very good.
Aldo35

Sergio Natali 02-22-2016 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aldo35 (Post 284503)
This pistol sold for $10,950. The provenance was not very good.
Aldo35

Bah! That's really a lot of money, especially for that gun, really there must be people around with a lot of money to spend.


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