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Show us your "shooter" lugers!
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Many of use recommend that matching guns not be shot, some take this to heart and buy "shooters", or put them together, or save mongrels from the ignominy of being converted to parts!
Here are my shooters, each has a story of why and how it came to be. To achieve "shooter" status for me, a pistol must be 99% reliable, some matching guns won't achieve shooter status! Many shooters require patience and effort to make them reliable. These four have made it; I have a couple more that need tweaking to achieve reliability.:o You can see that they comprise 4", 6", and 8" pistols. The artillery is a commercial made barrel on a 1917 DWM upper on a Mauser frame. The Navy is an original '06 frame and toggle train, with an '06 original barrel in a Kreighoff receiver, some of you may have followed its resurrection in my "basket case" thread. The 4" DWM commercial(upper left) is in 7.65mm , and exception in that it is mostly matching, and is an infallible shooter. The 4" 9mm is a Mauser G date upper, mismatched Mauser S/42 toggle train, on a '37 Mauser lower-it is also totally reliable. Now let's see yours!:cheers: |
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Really nice range kit there Don. I like and envy the barrel length assortment.
Here is the shooter inventory. All are reliable and accurate. Top: 1936 All matching Mauser except for unnumbered but proofed grips. Rough external finish, currently in the process of finalizing a sale. Mechanically this pistol is flawless but it has some external pitting and I've discovered I just don't like owning firearms with noticeable pitting, so someone is getting a fine shooter/low end collectible. Middle: 1900 AE, probably has been refinished several times. The eagle over the chamber is nearly gone, probably due to buffing. All numbered parts match except hold open. It's been reblued over pitting, and the pitting is mostly on the underside of the trigger guard so it is not very visible. Bottom: 1938 Mauser, mostly matching with a DWM toggle that matches itself and a Mauser proofed replacement barrel. Trigger does not match, side plate is aftermarket, left grip and firing pin are unnumbered. Professionally re-blued upper and side plate by Charles Danner. |
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1918 Erfurt, refinished, upper all matching, but doesn't match the lower. Replacement grips, non-original mag, paid $650.
Shoot great once I got her lubed and running. |
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Here is my favorite "shooter". It's a 1937 Mauser made Luger, all matching, with a holster induced "skin condition"...
It's mechanically fine with a great bore and an accurate shooter... |
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Alvin,
I asked for "pictures" of your shooter lugers- not analysis or advice! Show us your shooter(s)!:) Broomhandles are welcome! My only potential shooter Broom is a Bolo, out to Redman's for reline at present! Chamber was so pitted, would not extract a fired cartridge case.:( Matching except bolt, lanyard ring and boss removed. Quote:
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4scale,
Your AE reminds me that I "need" a 1900 shooter!;) |
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My incorrectly refinished RC shooter.
Matching BYF41 upper mated with different matching lower and a side plate from yet a third gun. I replaced the grips since this photo was taken. It shoots just fine! |
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My father bought this 42 byf (and a free box of ammo) in 1948 from a Missouri gun dealer for 35 dollars. I still have the original telegram communications between the dealer and my father. I'm thinking he wanted a Luger when he was over in France during WWII but was unable to get one. He did get a 1934 model Beretta in .380 while in Italy just before the invasion of the south of France. I'm sure he had it with him as he stormed the beaches. And then, while in France, he picked up a WWI vintage Spanish Izarra (the rarer long barrel model) that was made for the French military. While in France, he made some clear sweetheart grips for the Izarra and I'm thinking that's what inspired the multi color grips he made for the Luger. I do have the original Luger grips, though. The Luger is all numbers matching except for the mag which is period correct. I got the mag from Mike Krause in exchange for the one in my father's gun which was apparently for a much earlier Luger. The barrel is a little rough but grooves and lands are good and it's very accurate. As you can see, it's been polished a bit and reblued. A good shooter. |
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Alvin, I think they have medication to help with concentration. :)
13 postings on this thread and 4 of them are yours, to discuss, but do not show anything. MY latest shooter (below) - my 1914 Erfurt Artillery, I can't seem to find any pictures right now :confused: |
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I thought he copied the T 14 Nambu, the Ruger .22 bolt is a near ringer!:confused:
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Most of my collection are such pistols (I do have one 'lower' end collectible all matching 1913 Luger) but I find a joy in collecting shooter Lugers.
Here are 3 of mine in order: A chromed Erfurt 1918 (all matching numbers, internally and externally, alas) but I got it at $650 so not a bad price! Interarms 6" 9mm Luger (a fun one to shoot with at the range). A reblued 1917 Artillery Luger. |
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My most reliable and accurate shooter is an all matching 41 byf. Has some dings and some left side holster rash. Came with the original black plastic grips. Odd thing is, the grip straps are 99% blue.
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My long time shooter has been this BYF 41. I recently got an S/42 1938 but haven't taken pictures yet.
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Curly,
thanks for the pictures, but I'm curious, why one picture per post? Instead of 3 in one?:confused: |
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nice shooters.
Bob |
I was having problems figuring it out as it wasn't posting at first.
once I got it right I just followed the same steps after each posted OK. |
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This one came my way from an estate liquidation; I got it at a very good price. It has 2 WW II-era mags (S/42 and a small k-marked). Both function fine in the long Swiss frame with a 9mm DWM receiver. I have a new Swiss receiver, 7.65 mm barrel and a Swiss magazine coming in from LugerDoc to get it back to a righteous Swiss shooter. Not collectible, but shoot-able. A little cosmetic surgery in the future with "Thor" is also planned.
Bob http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...psdowmu1ok.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...psmv30fypx.jpg |
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Bob,
I like it.:thumbup: I did solve the long shank barrel/short receiver when I installed the original '06 barrel though, by using a spacer or breeching washer. Yes, the 6" bbl is installed in a "reject" Kreighoff receiver, note the reject star marking. I have a similar mismatch on my navy shooter, when I used/use it with a 4" bbl/short receiver. Shown in the lower picture below with my Erma .22lr kit installed on the 4" combination. As you can see, grips and frame finish were "improved" along the way and I now have a second muzzle nut for the conversion, thanks to lugerdoc! All-:thumbsup: Keep the pictures coming guys! |
Thanks, Don. What's nice about this forum is that everyone here loves to shoot their Lugers...maybe not the highly-collectibles, but the shooters. So everyone is into building great range guns of every description. It's almost as much fun as collecting the rare ones. I'm having a good time planning out the work on my Swiss rebuild. LugerDoc, Thor and G.T. have been VERY helpful, as have the forum members here answering my questions on finish, etc.
Bob |
Here's an Interarms I used to have. We shot it a little; my daughter REALLY liked shooting it.
Bob http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps9ddc224d.jpg http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...ps23a3300e.jpg |
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Last year I purchased a beautiful shooter from George Anderson that was fined tuned by G.T.~ Thank You Both!!
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Well, technically it's not a shooter anymore, as I retired from sports shooting due to rheumatic problems, but here is the configuration I used to practice with. The Japanese stock helped to give me some additional support, with a bum shoulder to work with :)
The pistol was also used to test an experimental adjustable Mauser rear sight, that never went into production. Nowadays its retired and sleeping with the rest, inside the refurbishers card board box. The pistol is an ex-VoPo refurb, done by Frankonia in the late 1990s. |
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Hi Vlim,
do you have any more detailed / disassembled pics of the experimental adjustable rear sight assembly ? was the sight and the shroud anchored by the center and rear axles or welded on ? was elevation adjustment in the front sight only with the toggle rear sight windage only ? looks better than the production sport pistol !!! thanks for sharing Bill |
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Roland, yes that is an MGC stock. Although made as a stock for non-firing replicas it actually functions quite well.
Bill: The rear sight was held in place by the rear toggle pin. The rear toggle had been cut to make room for the sight. Problem was that the sight would move upwards during recoil, as it was only fixed at the front and not at the rear. |
"Roland, yes that is an MGC stock. Although made as a stock for non-firing replicas it actually functions quite well. "
Just a reminder/information for US luger owners: This stock is not legal to be attached to any luger in the US; one exception- a 16" barreled carbine clone could have it attached and not fall afoul of the NFA. Vilm is in Europe. |
Curly1 , your L.Al is a sneak in the u range ? , got the L.Al.1. sneak
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Vlim,
thanks !!! for the info and pictures of the experimental rear sight Bill |
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My shooter to be
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Vlim that was interesting, thanks for sharing!
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Good luck! |
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