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I've just come into a brown minty ++ holster, but what is brothering me is there is not a date/proof mark anywhere on the thing, pictures will only show a beautiful holster so did not take any any yet.....is this correct for a brown WW1 era, I think, holster.....came with with a very nice 1917 Erfurt gun, but for now just the holster we are going to worry about.....this all will be offered for sale......thanks to all..

Looking forward to seeing the photos Howard...

I do not know how to load pictures, ??

Howard,

Go the "Advanced" section below when replying. It will prompt you to attach photos from your computer or other connected source. If you have digital images on your computer and you know how to find them, (I always move photos I'm going to post to my desktop. It's easier to get to each one that way), you can easily post them.

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OK after a long struggle on my wife's part here are the pictures.....from what you can see is this an original holster????thanks

OK eveybody, went through heck to learn how to post the pictures you wanted.....now please grade holster.....thanks......

Well, you need to go through a little more heck, and post more pictures, like of the inside of the top flap and hinge area.

Be patient, the experts will be along.

I don't like the leather or the color, but it is much easier to spot a
repro than confirm an original.

I don't know what you have, sorry.

I've sold more Luger stuff with fewer, and sometimes none, pictures.....you guys have asked for everything but a DNA test......consider it sold.

Howard

Respectfully, I think that here people asked you for more pictures simply to give you the best possible help.

Best regards


Sergio

thanks, it's OK lets move on......

Howard,
I for one appreciate the effort you put in to posting photos. From the two photos you have managed to post, it is still difficult for folks to determine what you have. Photos of the inside, particularly of the top ("lid" and tool pouch) might help. From what I can see from a non-expert opinion, it appears that there is a combination of machine and hand stitching, so it comes down to the fine details to judge original from repro.
At this point I am inclined to think it may be an original period example. But the lack of any maker marks and a few indications of machine construction makes final conclusions difficult. Please do not consider the lack of response to your query as indifference...it is just a hard call.
Ron

So have we all, no need for the attitude. JMHO.:eek:

Howard, it appears to be a pre WWI officer private purchase or commercial holster. I have a few like it with no markings.

pm sent......thanks

My best guess would be a commercial holster. Bill

This is why I like this forum. I would have not given this holster a second look and called it a repo. The tool marks and vertical belt loops looks like some cheap knock off. I will have to research the commercial side of the holsters. Thanks

thanks, it's OK lets move on......Well that saves me a lot of trouble! Thanks!

C'mon Jerry, I've been waiting 2 days for your opinion...
dju

It's a horrible fake. Howard, I know you don't care to know the truth as you say you have sold it..but I bet the thread will glow neon in blacklight. There are an even dozen reasons why this OK looking holster at first..turns out to be made recently. I am pretty busy working on real holsters..if it were someone who posted who is looking for real knowledge..I would take the time but not for someone with an attitude who doesn't care.

Knowing that you have forgotten more about Luger leather than I will ever know, I for one always appreciate your opinion.
Thanks Jerry.
dju

David, Thanks for the kind words..This holster first off was not made during the period it seemingly represents. That's only one reason I believe the thread will light up under a blacklight. Any commercial holster made during the period these were made for the military would be made BETTER than a military..not worse. This thing has oddities that can only be found in modern made holsters. Not period made holsters. German saddlers just didn't produce this kind of crap. I WISH I had the time to point out each and every point..but sadly I do not.

gee Jerry once more you chose to attack me, this is a never ending little tis between you and I, no one less the G Anderson tells me it is correct and if fact he has a few in his collection just like it, what next Jerry?, the moon is on fire and falling from the sky....been looking at the sun to long?........ I am getting into sub guns please tell me you have no interest in them and that on thier pages (web) I would be free to ask questions without your brain damaged interferance.......OK you can call me a poor speller......first gun on order is a MP40.....go ahead take a free shot at that.

Howard, You are entirely correct though..the moon was on fire last night..blood red. And in the end it did indeed fall from the sky! I saw it all.
As for your holster..You asked, I answered. It's just an opinion. An accurate one, one I would bet my last dollar on. Honestly..If I had some spare time I would pick that thing apart piece by piece, fault by fault..I quit counting at a dozen BAD faults. And I haven't even looked inside. It's a horrible fake some Pakistani made when he saw a picture of a Luger holster.
Here's another thing I would bet on, you have not blacklighted it. No need to really..that thread would glow like the neon on the Vegas strip. Even if it's cotton and doesn't glow the rest of the holster is just crap.
I cannot speak for George. If he says he has others JUST LIKE this one..they are fake too. I bend my knee to George Anderson..He knows more about Luger's than I ever will. I am no expert on many things..but I can tell you this..I KNOW what genuine original period made Luger holsters look like and are supposed to look like inside and out. It's the ONE thing I DO know. Anything else and I could be guessing or BSing or lying. This ONE subject ...I know my stuff Brother. Think otherwise at your own peril.
Yes, get into something besides Luger's. Good idea.

Personally, I don't like the toe. It shouldn't be square..I stopped looking after that. I may be wrong but the holsters I used to have and the few I have left don't look like this.

Other details: The holster "lid" is made of too-thin leather, the pull up strap as well. The backside of the closure strap is unfinished, showing raised fibers.

This is a repro someone covered with a blanket and went to town on with a baseball bat, in an attempt to make it look old.

Doug, All true! The closure strap is pointed wrong..Many others..as Steve says the toe is way funky..A poor attempt.

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