byf41 with Schiwy safety - cond. 99%
 

This must experienced !!
P.08 byf41 with Schiwy safety - eagle/655 - serial 3438p.
I had with me a lugerekspert from Gjovik to verify that it is not reblued or fixed on, seller said it was...
It's not done anything, almost untouched and almost not shot with.
German storage fat still lay in the firing pin and bushing for this. Gripplates is almost certainly not taken off before, and are numbers like ...
Check magazine - one stainless Haenel/Schmeisser with German labeling eagle / L.

This is shurely a treasure as far as i believe...?

Some more pics...

Very nice indeed!

I agree with your description completely Gebirg, that is quite a "treasure" you have there. Thanks for sharing.

Lon

Outstanding looking rare Luger variation! Is the magazine numbered to the gun?

Tom

Yes, a super example.

How often do you see byf with a sear safety?

I have talked to the OP above and I am unsure about that issue. On the other hand, it is an outstanding example isn't it.

Impressive condition... that's what I imagine something looks like when it's described as "minty"! Thanks for sharing.

Now, where did I put my drool-bucket?

Thank you all, i am glad you liked it.
No, magazine is not serialized. I think bottom is replaced, only the number "42" on it...

Anybody who knows about the amount that is known of these byf41 with Schiwy safety?

nice condition...

i am not so sure about it:
the schiwy-safety was only used by police
but as far as i know, a police-luger no "byf", but "mauser" and no military acceptance-stamp...

Pity about the mag, but goodness it's a knock-out of a Luger, one cannot have everything, congratulations indeed!


Sergio

el_loco
Thats why it is so rare and special - but all the way correct!
Used by police, but only eagle655 marked...

The magazine is an armorer's replacement.

That has to be as nice as one could ever expect/hope to find. Congrats on your find.

Cpl. rig

Excellent pistol. I understand that only some 200 p block went into police service and yours is outstanding.

Could you please humour me and take a good picture of the wear patern (if any) of the rear of the action? Your pistol was fired but not much, and it is in original condition. So, I would like to have a good reference.

Even though I'm mostly a shooter. That one is in the "safe queen" class.

Asle,
Although my primary collection interest is Imperial era Lugers I can appreciate outstanding examples from any period. You have obtained a rig that has to be in the top 1%, condition wise, of Lugers that have survived to the present day. Congratulations!
Ron

Magnificent Police holster!

I am a little worried about the holster. Unless I'm mistaken, the Otto Sindel maker's mark is common on a line of reproduction holsters that are well made and fairly convincing. Other than their often pristine condition, the Eagle/swastika mark does not quite match an original. The eagle's head and wings are proportioned a little differently, and the swastika is not straight in its circle. Inside, IIRC, the stitching for the belt loops should be submerged in a slit made for them, and not directly visible. I hope someone else who is more experienced in this matter can give a better-informed observation of this.

Dave, You are correct! Ya gotta watch for fakes. From what I can see this one looks good. Like you I would like to take a peek inside..The Eagle looks like a typical police eagle? Pays to look close at these for sure.

Need an inside belt loop picture. It does resemble the Otto Sindel police holsters that have been discussed before. Those were determined to be fake. Doesn't really matter beautiful luger!!. Bill

Doesn't really matter? Bill! Et tu Brute?

Jerry
What I meant was whether or not the holster is real the luger is very very nice. My best guess is the holster is fake. What say you Jerry?? Bill

Bill, I KNEW that! Just seein if yer awake! I would like to see more to determine it really..Like we all know there are some pretty good fakes floating around.

Yes.

Bad and incomplete info abounds.

Some lugers first found their way to the military then to the police.
According to The Mauser Parabellum, p 350:
1930-34 - 90 pistols with DWM toggles assembeled by Mauser went to the police
1935-42 - from the Army to Police - 2,301 to 4,312
Mauser banners 1938-1942 - 22,785 approx.

For a total of some 26,000 pistols, with roughly 10% via the Army.
So one might expect to see 1 of 10 Police Mauser pistols with army acceptance, of course all of these are not "byf" codes.

There is a lot more info in the book, with listings by serial number if you are interested in more info.

Stunning example!!!