RIA Apr 24-26 2015 Auction
 

Got a 16 page flyer for this Premier Firearms Auction on Saturday. No big catalog, and when I checked the RIA site Saturday, this auction wasn't listed yet. Doesn't seem to be online yet today either. "Over 2700 lots" the flyer states.

Couple of interesting handguns on the flyer. There is a half-page announcement for Ralph Shattuck's collection, but no pictures of his Lugers. I guess you have to buy the $60 catalog to get that.

My one bid from the last auction was listed on my sign-in page, with the hammer price. I was only off by $2,250... :rolleyes:

I'll probably find something to bid on in this auction. I haven't won anything yet, maybe I'm due. :)

Edit: I just checked the RIA site with the last auction hammer prices posted...I was shocked to see that of the 10 - 12 Lugers I looked at, they ALL went for ~$1,500-$2,000 over the projected prices!!! :eek:

But two other non-Luger lots I looked at (but didn't bid on because they were 2-gun lots) went for well within my 'ceiling' even including 15% buyers premium... :(

I see my fault now...I'm bidding on the wrong guns... :crying:

I speculate that RIA is holding off the printed and online catalogs until this weekend's Julia auction is over.

--Dwight

Poulin Auction had a few Mauser M1930s sold at buyer profitable price just a few days ago. But the cycling time of those is long, probably not worth the effort for collectors. I bet they went to C&R dealers.

Got an email from RIA today about the upcoming auction next weekend - nothing earth shaking; just a reminder. :rolleyes:

I was thinking about bidding on one of two lots; don't know now if I will [tooth problem]. Prices at last auction for what I was interested in were right-on the low estimates.

Bid or bid not? What would Yoda do??? :D

Gun collector's life is not unlike a revolutionist. Former Prime Minister Sun Yat-sen told his comrades, "in all my life I worked on how to move money around",,,, of course, his goal was not to improve his personal life, but for his revolutionary. Many gun collectors are same, moving money around, not really for improving personal life in conventional sense :)

Well, I just entered two bids on two different handguns. Don't really need either one, but I put in low bids on each. If I win both, I can cover the $$$. If I lose then it is the will of...[fill in local deity]... :p

That C96 carbine is good, unfortunately, it's a big ticket item, unlikely it will go under $20K. It worth 20K, but if this one comes at market fair price, there will be no money left for this year... most important -- this type of carbine is not my favorite,,,, so probably no... unless it's very very cheap,,,, unlikely though, seller must have a reserve. I'd better keep money for a future item that really catches my heart. All missing ones are expensive ones, probably can buy one in future. Only one.

OK!!! It's auction time!!! :thumbup:

I thought I was going to have to quit the auction, as my 20 yr old refrigerator slowly died. But my nephew bought a couple of my rifles/shotgun so I am waiting for the new fridge today! ;)

That frees up my auction cash. I was going to up my bids but I think it's too late now. :(

Regardless, I will be waiting for the results with bated breath...Will this be the year I finally win an auction??? Will I win both??? Will I cry myself to sleep tonight/tomorrow or celebrate all night???

Only time will tell... :D

Carbine sold $15K, that's $17250 with BP counted. Price is good.

Missed though. Too busy these days. Remembered its auction date wrong.... not Saturday.

Subject: RIAC Bidder Results for Friday

Your Bids Were Unsucessful
April 24, 2015
None of your bids were successful on items auctioned today

... :grr: :crying: :banghead: ...

common refrain for my bids :eek:

I put a bid in on something, it was accepted, but I don't know when they'll actually put it up properly. :P So I'm amused and wondering if I have to pay up or not. I suspect, like you all, I'll be outbid... Alas.

It's a little bit funny that we sat here competing who's bidding lower. That's good, but nothing comes so that's still a void. If bid low and it comes, that would be ideal :) Anyway, nothing comes this time then there is no cost, money is still in pocket, that's good for future sessions.

I'm still waiting to find out if my bid on the Webley semi-auto pistol was a failure or not. Do they wait until all the day's lots are done before you're notified? I'm new to RIA as a bidder (rather than lurker).

I was the winning bidder on a gun in yesterday's auction. I was notified soon after the end of that day's auction, by email.
Norm

I was also notified at day's end. Unsuccessful but I guess they notify you so if you had multiple bids in on successive days and won the first day, you could cancel the next days bidding. :rolleyes:

Norm - What did you win??? :D

Hi Rich, I'll post it when I get it. In the mean time, here's a clue.
Regards, Norm

Norm,

Congratulations! Nice Mauser Banner blank chamber with occupation star. Looks nice. Hope you got it for a good price.

John

Here is a general link~http://www.rockislandauction.com/search/aid/64 Eric

I noticed a Bulgarian was up to bid and here is a manual~~~http://www.landofborchardt.com/Bulga...l-article.html

Very nice, Norm!

Alas, I did not win myself a 3rd Webley .455 Mk I (N).

That 20-shot Cone Hammer sold $45000 !!!! BP included will be $51750 !!!!

Originally, I was a little bit upset because no one called me (I registered phone bid, in case other people are on vacation and forgot it). Not sure why they did not call me, probably I missed the call while I was walking outside?? If it's $12K and I missed it, that would be very regretful. The calling history did not show any missing calls though.

When I arrived home, first thing was checking the result. Now, I feel much better.

Well, I didn't win the two handguns I bid on in the RIA auction, but today I did win two separate auctions on GB for the same two handguns [the same generically] for within $5 of the price I would have paid GB if my lowball bids had been accepted and I paid by CC [17 1/2%], so I am not unhappy.

I would not have been in such a rush but I found out a couple weeks ago that the owner of my LGS/FFL receiver is cutting back his hours and taking off more time for fishing, hunting, family. When I was on the way to the PO to mail one of the MO's today, I saw a realtor hammering in a big 'For Sale' sign in the front lawn. :(

There are only two gunshops left locally. If this one closes I will have a long drive to pick up GB purchased handguns. Or any guns for that matter. :crying:

I'm getting too old for this anyway. I'm going to start looking for a retirement community where you have your own little bungalow and there is a big community center where all the old fogies can go and play cards, watch TV, just sit & whine, etc. Where there's a nurse on site, an activities director, a cook, maybe some other straphangers. I'll live out my days watching the 456 reruns of the 20 year run of 'Law & Order' in peace.

That sounds wonderful. :) :cheers: :thumbup:

Make sure you have your computer!!

C96 price is very hard to predict. The only C96 good buy in this RIAC session is that small ring carbine. Winner saved at least a couple of thousand dollars. The very expensive one is that 20-shot conehammer. Two extremes. Say, 20CH is still rare so it's hard to predict, normal. But common one could be hard to predict too -- back a few months ago, a short barrel reworked Red 9 sold $9000 from Julia (BP included will be over $10K). This type of rework is usually under $2000 regardless of condition, that particular one sold $9000 probably due to it has a Norwegian privatization release stamp... if it's not supposed being a discount point, how could it increase value...

That's an odd looking Navy, Norm. 😀

Hi Mike, As one can tell from my avatar, I don't just collect Navies.
Best regards, Norm

Ya Norm, nice clock!............

this? http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...aid/64/lid/804

Hi Ben, Correct! It's a very rare variation with less than 100 known to exist, almost all of them in France. This one is the first I've ever seen on this side of the Atlantic.
Regards, Norm

Premium collection of Lugers, I thought. Way over my budget, but thanks for the heads-up !!! I wish the catalog was downloadable - it was nicely laid out, but only for viewing.

Very cool! :thumbup:

is star the way to know? star on krigoffs meant rejected?

The five pointed star is the French occupation stamp. You also see them on some P.38s.

Really nothing much to do with the LWaA marking rejected guns with the five pointed star.

Or for that matter Krieghoff internal inspectors accepting them with the six-pointed star which they used for a while.

John

I noticed there were over 3400 in the luger section. I also noticed prices realized seemed low! Is this because the were so many choices. It seems the ones that were rare or pretty met their expected price range. A definite buyers market! To sell your pretty luger I would seek alternate avenues!! The prices realized is an eye opener! Eric

Not in the auctions I bid on. :soapbox:

Rich, You do have a great eye and good taste! Found this on the star proof! It was for rejection! Tks as always. Eric

Eric, under French occupation, the star marking replaced the Eagle/N commercial proof marking. It is quite easy to understand that the French occupation forces saw no need for a nazi eagle on their pistols :)

I picked up this little beauty for a lot less: 1981 Mauser .38 special revolver :)

Thank You mon amie! Did the star have difference as it applied only to Krieghoff! In other words the star was not a rejection to any other brand?

It depends on whatever meaning a company gave to a marking. These punches are relatively standard items and pretty common in every factory workshop, so they are available.

I remember that Mauser used a heart shaped punch to identify a certain batch of frames in the 1970s. In other words, they used what they had available for whatever purpose they needed :)