Totenkopf Etched DWM Parabellum
 

Interesting Luger with an interesting history I thought to share

http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/

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http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com/

You do know there are hundreds of Lugers at PIA, right? And no Search function there?

An exact URL would be most helpful...Might even get some discussion... :)

A totenkopf at PIA? We might as well discuss UFO abductions and Elvis sightings ...........:evilgrin:

Rich,
When you go to the website, just click on the "New Additions" tab...the TK is the second Luger listed.

When I was on the TK page, I copied its URL--but it is the same as their home page. Let an I.T. guy who knows explain it to us.

Yes You're right.. But No matter what URL on their website, it keeps giving same URL when i paste. Without pictures it's not as convenient to discuss!! :crying:

So I have to spend 10 minutes of my life that I'll never get back looking for it???

Sheesh...

http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com...headpolice.htm

Having found that, the skull is much less cartoonish than other examples, and the crossed bones are more realistic as well...But it's missing the characteristic lazy-S...

Lots of period pictures...

This should work: http://www.phoenixinvestmentarms.com...headpolice.htm

I don't know how you did it!! thank you :cheers:
i too had a difficult time trying to get the URL and that's why i posted the pictures, as i was so eager to discuss, but unfortunately i didnt pay attention to the copyright notice! i'm glad the admin here did! thanks. :D

i had posted one for you, which you'll now see on his website with the provided link by Olle, that i believe you can add to your collection! :evilgrin:

Kinda looks like a biker tattoo to me:evilgrin:

Does PIA take requests??? I'd like my Totenkopf Luger to have the skull smaller, and perpendicular to the boreline...And add the lazy-S... :)

They might suggest that you get your "lazy-S" to work and do it yourself :evilgrin:

I had thought of that...I have Datig's 1958 edition of The Luger Pistol with a pic of an original Totenkopf graphic...I think I could do it justice... :thumbup:

Of that I have no doubt.

Somewhat brutal showing people getting mowed down as part of a sales pitch........

I got my Totenkopf Luger from Elvis, but a UFO abducted it from me.

Be thankful you were spared the anal probe.:cheers:

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I have a small collection of TK's images I've snagged from the net. This one is by far the most realistic looking, but I think this helps tip the scale to the B.S. side, if it was not there already. I'm impressed by the mystery involved in the entire TK concept, at least as it applies to Lugers. Ah, history could be so much easier, if we were able to go back and be a "fly on the wall", to discover the real scoop!

My purpose in collecting these images is to select, or create a version that I'm happy with--not too cartoonish, but not too realistic, either. I have an extra Erma upper for the KGP69, and plan to have the motif laser-etched onto it, just for S. & G. It will be the perfect complement to another, its small parts strawed, which will have the U.S. Great Seal similarly etched onto the receiver, and which I will call the "Ermarican Eagle".

Agreed. Probably took a lot of effort to assemble all those 'historic' pics. Someone at PIA has a lot of time with nothing else to do. :)

I could use a good picture of crossed Mosin-Nagant rifles, if you have one. ;)

phony holster. not surprise.

Ron could be referring to Cartman on South Park! :roflmao:

http://southpark.cc.com/full-episode...-an-anal-probe

on a serious note though, PIA does state
if there is provenance that this Luger was period etched (e.g. letter from USGI's family, etc), would it not have collector value as well?

here's a typical concentration camp holster!

off topic, but for TK purposes, here's a machine pistole mag pouch with same TK marking

close up of the TK (here's one for you Dave!)

comparison of holster TKs and period picture from the above mentioned reference book

More foder for future Luger archeologists!

Cracked slide??

Now why would they do that when they have their own already?

A letter of provenance, even from the vet, is just a letter.

Proves nothing.

Spend some time around vets and you will get the picture.

Lots of stories improve with age.

way on the bottom of the sellers web page is a paper drawing of the art-work. nice to see they did it on paper before on the metal.

For anyone having trouble viewing this luger, this is a direct link to it:
PIA Luger.

A much more knowledgeable collector than myself warned me away from that site years ago.
He said: "...that guy has manufactured more lugers than Erfurt."

Whatever you do, don't look it in the eyes...

PIA guys might be not so gentle....

If you want to get the URL for a Luger displayed on the PIA website, right click on the link and "open in a new window"... the actual URL will be displayed in the address box on the new window...

..PIA and Commercial Lugers
 

.A couple of weeks back....got "the fever" to pick up a 1920s Era Commercial Luger....maybe in 7.65 Caliber......and called PIA.and had a long talk with one of the Reps......in our conversation he informed me that...."we don't buy Commercial Lugers...to us they are nothing better than door stops or paper weights ".....kind of shocked me to hear that attitude....so I asked about 1921 dated Military or Police....said they had none in stock.....then next day one was advertised on their site.......couple hours later sold.......I called up and asked what the selling price was........$2850.00....So I have just kinda taken them off my list of Dealers.....Anyway....just thought I would pass along this kinda strange conversation........Danke.......Hans Fischer

Interesting as well iis that there is finish wear directly on the skull itself, while the balance of the pistol is almost mint. It would seem that somebody tried to polish down the ridges of a recent engraving and did not want to cold blue the area afterwards.

The wear actually enhances the skull and looks completely out of place versus the balance of the gun.

The same is true for pictures. I looked at the Philly Ordnance site some time ago and noticed some clean looking German soldiers -

http://www.philaord.com/MP-40_MP-41.html

Turns out there was some spirited discussion about that pic on another forum - It's a couple of 're-enactors' holding replica MP-40's... :roflmao:

I adhere to Fox Mulder's philosophy..."Trust...No One"... :D

I've seen this photo before and have always considered it to be authentic.

These are French volunteers to the German army. Not all soldiers were filthy all the time. There was guard, garrison and occupation duty which did not involve combat.

Pictured is a scarse, MP38/40 transitional gun. Replicas do not come with early, slab-sided magazines or early, non ribbed magazine wells.

The negative is reversed so the MP40 is backwards. This is the only issue I see with this image.