Werle-Nedbal .45ACP Parabellum Prototype No. 001
 

Hermann Historica 68th auction Lot #643; photos saved here.

Super photos Michael! Is the gun yours now?

:confused::crying:

I can't see the photos! Is the website down? or am I being filtered?:eek:

I can see (& save) them...Must be the filters... :rolleyes:

Michael, is it stainless, or in-the-white???

Would Michael post pics under his own name if it wasn't??? :D

John,

The photos are on the right, just click on "here"

As the listing says, in-the-white.Why not? The gun is up for grabs next month. It is a historical piece. Bid early and often.

Sheepherder is right... that site is filtered where I am ... If someone could save and post them (if they are not copyrighted), and post them here I (and others I'm sure) would appreciate it... it will be hours before I can check in from home.

Michael, I am sure that if it caught your attention, it must be a deusie! :cheers:

Where is this auction?
 

Hi,

How do you find this auction?

Aldo34:)

Here's the ones I snatched...They're not very big...Not sure why... :confused:

From Michael's post -

http://www.hermann-historica.de/aukt...db=kat68_s.txt

Machine translated:

Lot # 643
Werle-Nedbal Parabellum, prototype
Cal .45, ACP, No. 001 Mirror Bright bore, length 125 mm. Magazine for seven cartridges. German shelling. Grip safety. Weapon completely in white finished state. Minimal traces of contact of the assembly and legal attack. Like new condition.
Parts of the weapon with Karl Nedbal in Vienna made. From the German Parabellum specialists Herbert Werle finished and assembled. The weapon is the first piece of the collaboration between the two renowned specialists Nedbal and Werle. On the weapon manufacturing mark "NK" and "Werle".
Using this weapon tested Herbert Werle the assembly of parts and prepared the production processes for a proposed, but so far unrealized very small batches before. Uniquely copy of the Parabellum pistol in caliber .45 ​​ACP analogous to the test weapon for the U.S. Army in 1906. Due to the white finished state can the weapon be finished according to the wishes of the purchaser.
Acquisition certificate prescription.

Previously offered at 9,500 EUR.

Beautiful pistol , but it looks a little "off" from being an exact copy as I understand the Krause guns are......Ron?

I notice this one lacks the DWM logo also....is there really any trademark concerns all these years later?

The Krause replica is not known to cycle. The Werle-Nedbal variant appears to work.

If I have some € , I ll be happy having it : nice 45acp , but not the moment , I just buy a 1902 carbine ...

The Krause gun is a dead ringer for the surviving DWM guns whereas the Werle-Nedbal does look "off" a bit. But as Michael pointed out the Krause guns frequently take some tinkering to run reliably...supposedly the W-N guns don't leave the shop until they can run a magazine full without malfunction...don't know that for sure but that is what I have heard.

If you do a search on YouTube, you will find a nice clip of one of these being fired by Herr Werle, selbst.

I don't know what powder he was using in his ammo, but it surely smoked like the devil!


Sieger

At the price these Krause Werke Parabellums were offered for sale, this fact was somewhat disappointing to me. In fact, this kept me from buying one from him in the first place. Springs, springs, its all in the springs!!!

The Mexican made stainless steel Lugers, marketed by Stoeger and others, also suffered from this same issue.


Sieger

Werle is "the master" Luger gunsmith! He is probably the best Lugersmith in the world!

Sieger

Not sure where this came from Sieger, but ALL of the stainless steel Lugers, regardless of the label they were marketed under, were made in Houston, TX.

John,

You may be correct, of course, but somewhere in the back of my mind I remember reading that most of their parts were, indeed, made in Mexico.

The article I read, however, may have been totally inaccurate.

Thanks!

Sieger

Hi All,

Have you guys found the four or so clips on YouTube of Werle shooting his .45 creation?

Nice!!!

Sieger

No. 3 offered at 11,900.00 EUR:
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=5019945

Hope springs eternal.