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Tinplatejeff 01-05-2014 10:12 PM

1940 P-08 - Inherited Luger from my father
 
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I have been lurking on the forum since August, but thanks to the blizzard here in the Midwest I have finally had time to get pictures of my father's P-08 taken. First I want to say what an amazing forum this is, I'm an active collector of many things and this is hands down one of, if not, the best forums I've come across. I've learned a lot about P-08s and how to photograph them. I purchased a light box and used my Panasonic FZ40 camera. I'm still a novice at photography, but I hope you all will find the pictures satisfactorily. If anyone needs more detail of a specific area/marking on the gun, please let me know and I'll add it.

First the history of the P-08 as I know it. My father purchased it on Feb. 9, 1985 (I have the original receipt) from Gambles Hardware store in a nearby town here in Indiana. The P-08 was acquired by the store from the WW2 veteran that brought the gun back. I have his name and address, but no idea if he is still living or not. The P-08 came with two magazines and a 1915 dated holster. My father paid $465.00 for the P-08, mags and holster.

I went to the gun range with my father several times with the P-08 back in the 1980s and early 1990s. He always wanted a Luger and was so happy to have gotten one. It shot great most of the time, jammed a few times, and was the first handgun I ever shot. It has immeasurable sentimental value to me.

I would like to know the opinions of it and details of where it was made, it appears to be all matching as best as I can tell. What grade is it? What about the finish, original? Percent remaining?

The holster, I have no idea why a 1940 gun came with a 1915 holster. Was this common during the WW2? The holster is in poor condition, opinions of it? Should I post the pictures of it in the Holster area of the forum? Thanks in advance I look forward to feedback from all of you.

Tinplatejeff 01-05-2014 10:15 PM

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Tinplatejeff 01-05-2014 10:18 PM

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Last ones, the 1915 holster ...

DavidJayUden 01-05-2014 10:26 PM

Nice gun and congratulations! The gun appears to be honest and unmolested. It was mfg. by Mauser. The bluing is a bit thin, showing that it has been used. I see no problems and it is a very nice looking piece.
How it got into a 1915 holster is anyone's guess, no rhyme or reason.
dju

Edward Tinker 01-05-2014 10:37 PM

looks nice to me too :)

Jerry burney can fix your holster lid if you'd like

Tinplatejeff 01-05-2014 10:51 PM

Thanks for the nice comments.

What % of blue would people say it has?

What would the insurance value be for it?

Tony Min 01-05-2014 10:53 PM

Looks nice. Finish is nice but maybe a little overpolished and thin on the frame. Probably worth $1500

Tinplatejeff 01-05-2014 10:55 PM

Advice as far as shooting it or not?

mrerick 01-05-2014 10:57 PM

Some of these came out of the factory with thinner bluing. I have a 1939 that looks positively translucent...

I would think insurance of $1500 minimum if all matching and at least 90% finish coverage. Your frame may be more worn than that. Look at one of the online dealer sites for approximate retail values.

Jerry Burney on this board can repair your holster, and you should consider having him do that work. It would be worth $300 or so.

I never shoot collectable Lugers. Your results may vary... See the "posts of regret" here. If you want to shoot one, get a non-matching or refinished one.

Tinplatejeff 01-05-2014 11:02 PM

Every part that I looked at when I field stripped it had the matching 15 number on it. Is it worth doing a full disassembly? Should I take off the grips?

Tinplatejeff 01-05-2014 11:32 PM

Also, obviously the magazines don't match, but are they the correct era/manufacturer? What do the marks on them mean? I'd love to find the correct magazine someday. Anybody have the guns my mags go into?

Sergio Natali 01-06-2014 10:19 AM

Congratulations it looks like a good collectible and genuine gun.

Tony Min 01-06-2014 11:10 AM

I shoot all my guns. It is a personal choice. They are not made of chocolate but parts are old and a numbered part can break and be next to impossible to replace with a part numbered the same.
That said, if it brings you closer to your father to shoot it you might. If it is more important to keep the gun like it is today, don't. Rare irreplaceable ones should not be shot.
Nobody is a moron for making this personal decision...
For me shooting them gives me tremendous pleasure. Worth every penny it might cost me.

Sergio Natali 01-06-2014 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Min (Post 247558)
I shoot all my guns. It is a personal choice. They are not made of chocolate but parts are old and a numbered part can break and be next to impossible to replace with a part numbered the same.
That said, if it brings you closer to your father to shoot it you might. If it is more important to keep the gun like it is today, don't. Rare irreplaceable ones should not be shot.
Nobody is a moron for making this personal decision...
For me shooting them gives me tremendous pleasure. Worth every penny it might cost me.



Absolutely well said, I completely agree 100%

Mike Z 01-06-2014 01:49 PM

Congratulations
Looks Great To Me
Mike Z.

Tinplatejeff 01-25-2014 09:31 PM

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I was able to send my 1915 holster to Jerry Burney. Instead of having him repair it I was able to work out a trade with him for a 1940 holster to match my 1940 Mauser. I received it this week, I'm very happy with it, thanks Jerry! :)

rhuff 01-26-2014 04:37 PM

Now THAT is a marriage made in Heaven.......Congrats!!

Tinplatejeff 01-26-2014 06:09 PM

Yes it is, thanks!

Now I just need a takedown tool with the eagle over 655 stamp on it.

If anybody has one available let me know.

my66coupe 01-27-2014 09:32 PM

Thanks for sharing. My 1940/42 luger came home in a 1913 stamped holster. Has the vets name and army serial number written on the inside.

Tinplatejeff 01-31-2016 08:54 PM

Somehow it's been two years since I first posted pictures of my 1940 Mauser. It's been living a quiet life in my gun safe. I recently contacted Jim Solomon about repairing the "million dollar chip" in the left grip. In doing so I removed the grips for the first time ever tonight! Jim thought the grips would not be serialized to the gun. However, it does indeed have the matching "15" on them. Is this usual then for a 1940 Mauser? Also, there are a couple of large "W" only found on the inside of the right grip. Grips have the matching WaA655 to the gun. I and Jim would like to hear thoughts on this, see pics. Left grip will be going to Jim for repair soon :)

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Thanks.

kzullick 02-01-2016 09:33 PM

Very Nice, enjoy.

P08Leder 02-01-2016 09:59 PM

She's a beaut!

Sergio Natali 02-02-2016 07:17 AM

Again, let me say all beaufitul pictures and lovely gun, enjoy it.

Kind regards.

Tinplatejeff 03-03-2016 01:03 PM

I wanted to publicly thank Jim Solomon for the outstanding job he did fixing "the million dollar chip" and cleaning the grips from my 1940 Mauser.

I highly recommend his work.

Thanks Jim :)

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Sergio Natali 03-03-2016 01:14 PM

That Luger it's a pleasure for the eyes, he's done a good work I would say!

Quiet1 04-01-2016 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinplatejeff (Post 283676)
Somehow it's been two years since I first posted pictures of my 1940 Mauser. . . . . . . . . In doing so I removed the grips for the first time ever tonight! Jim thought the grips would not be serialized to the gun. However, it does indeed have the matching "15" on them. Is this usual then for a 1940 Mauser? Also, there are a couple of large "W" only found on the inside of the right grip. Grips have the matching WaA655 to the gun. I and Jim would like to hear thoughts on this, see pics

I just came across this thread. First, congratulations on a very nice Luger. What a great deal to find a "matching" 1940 holster.

Interestingly, my all matching, (except mag) Code 42, 1940 Luger is a very close "sibling" to yours. Serial Nr. 4897c so just 118 guns "older". :) (My magazine is numbered 9448c so 4551 guns later.)

The grips on mine, which I believe to be original are NOT inscribed with the gun's last two digit numbers. They each DO have the Waffenamt inspector's stamp E/655. And, the right one has a large W (or M) like yours, and what appears to be a an S (or 9 ?).

The left one, in addition to the E/655 has a large O and a C (or U).

So, I guess that around that period of time some grips got numbered and some didn't. Here's a shot of the inside of my grips.

Btw, if you're interested, here's a link to photos of mine posted last year. http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...060#post270060

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/a...pswje2wtv2.jpg

Tinplatejeff 04-01-2016 07:36 PM

Wow! That's really interesting on your grips and being so close to the production of mine.

Thanks for sharing.

wlyon 04-01-2016 07:48 PM

Serialed numbered grips on these lugers is a hit and miss type deal. The other letters are inspector marks . And again may or may not be there. So how do we know if they are original or not? We don't. If the grips appear to be original and have wear consistent with the rest of the luger probably are original. Inspectors initials add some credence. Bill

Edward Tinker 04-01-2016 08:34 PM

I just saw this - nice luger, nice story - obviously your dad over-paid (hah, hah, just April fools days - whether he over-paid or underpaid you can see how it has risen :) )

My first Luger was a hard buffed, reblued artillery - my second was a mismatch - upper matched and bottom matched, not to each other.

As to the original holster, it is very hard to say, as older holsters were issued with younger guns and also, many soldiers (US) would grab up a gun and holster from different piles or even trade for a different holster. Heck, it could have been matched up 10 years after WW2 :)

Ed


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