Vlaue of Luger
 

I have a 1940 Mauser luger serial # 6671 and would like some idea of the value. Any response will be appreciated

Toggle inscription: Mauser

Chanber inscription: 1940

Toggle Knob:squared

grip safety: no

Stock lug: yes

Caliber: 30 luger

grip: brown plastic with no insignia

thumb safey: safe when forward - groves on safety

markings: # 48 on frame above serial nember

Barrel 3 3/4 inch

marking on extractor: # 48

sights: Fron sight can be moved left or right - back of front sight is "stepped"

Magazine bottom: aluminium same seriel number as gun

has an "io" in script not block print


the bluing is 95%+

the strawing on the trigger, disassembly latch ans safety is about 50%(I thought strawing stopped in 1937?)

the bore is excellent

the grips are clean and new looking

all serial nembers match ie "71"

I have the origional holster in very good condition wit the origional take down tool


thanks

Ron

Re: Vlaue of Luger
 

Thanks for taking time to provide so much detail. Unfortunately, some of the details raise more questions so some additional information may be needed. In particular, the marking 48 on extractor and �¶n frame above s/n" are unusual. The only number on extractor should be last two digits of gun s/n (71). If it is a small 48, the extractor has been replaced post-manufacture. Second, 30 luger is a commercial caliber and all the German mil lugers of 1940 are 9mm. Look on underside of barrel and see what s/n is stamped there. Does it match the frame number? Also, the important part of the s/n is the script letter UNDER the digits stamped on front of the frame. That letter can be helpful. Finally, the script letter on magazine is actually a single letter, perhaps a w or u or something else. The value of a mil holster of ca 1940 is a bit less than for an unmarked commercial holster--the tool, if unmarked, is worth around $40.


A 30 luger with replacement parts has value around $350. If all original and an exotic 1940 Mauser commercial of some form with strawed parts, it could be a $3000+ luger. A little more infor would help to better id it.


dm

more information about the luger
 

the extractor has a small 48 on the left side. The number 71 is the same as the number on the other parts of the gun


I assumed that it is a 30 luger since there were 30 luger shells with the gun ( How can I determine the exact calibur?)


the barrel s/n is the same as the frame s/n


there is NO script letter under the s/n on the frame only the 48 above the s/n


the barrel is actually 3 7/8 inches from the breachblock to the muzzle


the strap on the holster is sewn with buckle arrangement


stamped in ink inside the holster flap is the number 23 two times about 1/2 inch in height


the spare magazine has a different s/n from the gun


the checkering on the grip goes all the way to the edge. There is NO border


For some reason the "Forum Decorum Document Button" does not completely show up on my web page so I cannot upen it. Could someone send me a copy to ro@pgba.org


This gun was shipped from Germany by my brother in the early 40's. It was not unpacked until after the war. The gun was encased in "cosmoline", wrapped in brown paper and sealed in a wooded box. Another brother who helped my olders brother unpack and clean the gun thinks that this was the origional manufactors box but we have no way of rally knowing

Re: OOPS! more information about the luger
 

the handles are NOT plastic. they are walnut there is no marking inside the handle

1940 Swedish Contract Commercial
 

This is the only one that makes sense....even to the less than 100mm barrel!


See Kenyon Page 280


Orv Reichert

Re: 1940 Swedish Contract Commercial
 

I believe the 1940 date rules out the Swedish contract as well as the barrel length. The Swedish contract pistols were in the v suffix block.

Did we ever determine if it was 7.65 or 9mm?

1940 swede
 

Here is the example from the book


the description fits, too....straw..1940 date...30 cal..barrel 3-7/8" the SN reported are differnet and they all had a 'w' suffix, it said. in the 7000 range but VERY FEW reported at the time?


Orv Reichert




http://boards.rennlist.com/upload/1940Swedish.jpg

Re: 1940 Swedish Contract Commercial
 

The thought just occurred to me, but when you indicate the #48 on the receiver and breechblock are you indicating the number of the proof in the technical section, or the actual number 48?

If it is the proof shown as number 48 in the Technical Info, I am betting is is just a commercial Mauser. Does the barrel have noticeably more shine than the receiver, as these pistols had a rust blued frame and a salt blued barrel with strawed small parts.

Re: 1940 swede
 

As the Kal.7.65 marking is so distinctive on the barrel of the 1940 Swedish contract, I didn't think he would miss that. I guess if you are new to Lugers, the caliber marking might not be noteworthy.

Re: 1940 Swedish Contract Commercial
 

the 48 is the proof shown as number 48 in the Technical Info


ron

Photo of Ron's Luger
 

Hi John

There is definately no caliber marking on the left side of the barrel. Will try to get some better pictures online tomorrow. We no longer have the box

Re: Photo of Ron's Luger
 

Left side receiver above serial number looks like an EAGLE over L or C or F, but that would NOT be consistent with the strawed parts or magazine. Curios what that marking is? ~Thor~

Re: Photo of Ron's Luger
 

OOPS...I know see the reference to #48 proof in previous messages, sorry I didnt read that first! ~Thor~

Ron's Luger
 

It is a commercial gun:


Note the following:per Kenyon Page 280


3-7/8 barrel

.30 cal

No P08 on left frame

E/N commercial proofs

Mixed blue parts [both rust & salt]

Strawed small parts


Again, very few known....all may not have gone to Sweden?

Re: Photo of Ron's Luger
 

it is an eagle over an " N "


Ron

Re: Photo of Ron's Luger
 

Sorry, I saw that earlier, my mistake! An interesting variation for sure! Thor

Re: Ron's Luger
 

Didcovered more information


there is a letter E stamped onthe frame under the left handle


The back of the holster has this inscription


HANS DEUTER


1939

UCS?URO

"Eagle with swatsza under it"

W?A36

.

I have sent John some pitures since the server would not allow me to upload


Thanks for all the ideas that have already come


ron

Re: Vlaue of Luger
 

Ron, Castonzo's WOL Proofmarks book page 416 show several know serial numbers from 6669w to 6781w with the same features as yours, being Sweden 7.65mm 1940 dated commerical contract pistols. Tom h.

Re: Vlaue of Luger
 

We have a 1940 Swedish contract luger with serial no: w 7525

Ours is a 7,65 and is marked 7,65 on the barrel just like the one in Knyons book.


Regards HÃ?Â¥kan

Re: Vlaue of Luger
 

this gun does not have the letter following or preceeding the serial number and also does not have the 7.65 on the barrel. I cannot find any caliber indications. The only clue that I have is the 30luger cartridges that are in the clip


Ron

Re: Vlaue of Luger
 

I sent pictures to John and he identified the suffix letter as a "W" so all seems to be pointing to a commerical 30 ;however two people have said they were 7.65. any explanations for this variation from anyone??


thanks for all the input from everyone

ron

.30 caliber Luger and 7.65mm Luger are the same cartridge
 

.30 caliber Luger is the English/American designation for 7.65mm Luger


-John

See-- I told you guys what it was!
 

It is a commercial gun...it might not be a Swede as it does not have the 7,65 on the barrel..but check Kenyon's Page 284. Most of these are 9mm with 4 or 5 digit numbers-some with suffix..but they could have ordered anything, I am sure?


Orv Reichert

Re: Ron's Luger
 

Ron,


It is very easy to determine if your Luger is 7.65 or 9mm. Take one of the cartridges and fit the bullet end into the end of the bbl. If it is noticibly smaller, your gun is 9mm; if the bullet looks like it would engage the rifling in the bore, it is 7.65. You can also remove the reciever from the gun, remove the toggle assembly from the reciever, and look down the bore from the chamber end. With good lighting, you should be able to see the "shoulder" in the chamber of a 7.65mm barrel.

Re: Ron's Luger
 

Does anyone have any idea what the markings on the holster indicate as described in the previous message???


the eagle appears to be the same eagle as the one in "48" except it has the swatzka enclosed in a circle under it


and given all the above information would anyone like to hazzard a guess as to the value?


thanks


ron