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John Sabato 09-04-2013 01:20 PM

Artillery Luger Shoulder Stock Photos.
 
We don't seem to have a good way to research shoulder stocks...The purpose of this thread is compile a large album of good quality photographs of Artillery Luger shoulder stocks that can be used by all members to compare and evaluate stocks they may come across in their collecting activities.

If you own an Artillery Luger Shoulder Stock, or just have some good photos of these stocks, please post photos of it (or them) in this message thread. Please upload your photos directly to the Lugerforum using the "Manage Attachments" feature in the advanced mode... Please do not post your photos to external sites and just link them here. Many members cannot SEE photos posted on external websites because their computer location (usually their employer) filters those sites...

Try to take and use good clear focus closeups of both sides of the stock, and both sides, and the top of the stock iron, and show any stamps, cartouches, or proof and inspection marks.

Please describe in your posting, whether or not the stock is Original or Reproduction, the manufacturer (if known), the serial number including letter suffix if it has one, and anything unusual about your stocks...

This thread will likely become a "sticky" reference in this forum...thanks in advance to all those will contribute to this photo collection.

Who will get this Photo Album Started by posting first ? :thumbup:

:cheers:

Vlim 09-04-2013 04:29 PM

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Something to start with.

This stock is numbered to the gun (1917) 1162f.

Norme 09-04-2013 04:52 PM

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Hi John. Here's another set.
Regards, Norm

cirelaw 09-04-2013 05:11 PM

Matching Artillery with Stock and Luger!
 
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1917 169th Baden both matching. Compliments of George Anderson~~~~

John Sabato 09-04-2013 05:17 PM

Great submissions guys... keep it up!

cirelaw 09-04-2013 05:55 PM

1914 Erfurt LP08 serial #3079
 
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A description from George Anderson the previous owner is included below~~~

George Anderson 09-04-2013 05:56 PM

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Great idea John! Here are a few more.

First, a 1917 DWM with standard Crown/S acceptance stamp.

George Anderson 09-04-2013 06:00 PM

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Next, a common 1914 Erfurt.

George Anderson 09-04-2013 06:02 PM

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Another but earlier Erfurt Crown/G. This one is numbered in the wood rather than the iron.

George Anderson 09-04-2013 06:06 PM

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Next, an earlier 1914 Erfurt stock this one numbered 14 with a Crown /H and something extra. A friend in Italy has another such stock with stamped screws numbered 50.

George Anderson 09-04-2013 06:09 PM

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A 1936 Mauser Banner Siamese contract.

George Anderson 09-04-2013 06:13 PM

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Last, a Mauser contract Persian.

lugerholsterrepair 09-04-2013 08:44 PM

Anyone have any Imperial Navy stocks?

John Sabato 09-05-2013 08:34 AM

Hey Jerry. Please open a similar thread in the Navy Luger forum for Navy Stock photos. It will simplify research for the newbies. Lets keep this thread for Artillery Stocks only.

tharpo 09-05-2013 09:40 PM

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My 1917 Artillery stock Sn 7412a matching to gun.

lugerholsterrepair 09-06-2013 06:45 PM

John, I have some beautiful unit marked stock photo's..Can I send them to you for posting? I tried your old email address but the one I have on file came back as no good.
Jerry

wolfganggo 09-08-2013 04:14 AM

probably 1916 DWM ...
 
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crown S stamp
556a
comes together with an 1916 Holster and an cleaning rod with brass tip
i my opinion this set lies together for a long time :D or an collector assembeled it :( . things are matching (unmarked, probably dwm cleaning rod, brass tiped - early one), crown S (for dwm ??) on stock, stock serial checked according to stills book, so i believe that the Holster manufacturing date will be productiondate of the whole set .....

see also http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=30872

regards from Austria ... wolfganggo :bigbye:

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John Sabato 09-09-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 239956)
John, I have some beautiful unit marked stock photo's..Can I send them to you for posting? I tried your old email address but the one I have on file came back as no good.
Jerry

Thanks to Eric for posting Jerry's photos before I could get to them. :thumbup:

Jerry, you have my email address for the future, please purge the old email address from your records...

and so where is Ms. Ellie? You may be the leather master craftsman Jerry, but she is the Computer Operator and Photo Poster extraordinaire! Tell her I said Hi! :cheers:

cirelaw 09-11-2013 05:55 PM

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My mistake, I posted Jerrys artillerys in the navy section!

cirelaw 09-11-2013 06:25 PM

Way Cool Stock
 
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Any history??

lugerholsterrepair 09-11-2013 08:09 PM

Thanks Eric!

cirelaw 09-11-2013 08:11 PM

A Few More From Jerry!
 
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Great stuff! TKS Eric

cirelaw 09-11-2013 11:04 PM

Perfect~~~~

skeeter4206 09-12-2013 12:47 AM

That's a nice collection there.

Edward Tinker 09-13-2013 02:19 PM

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Later John, we might want to do some clean up or gather into a PDF for showing various styles.

Shown is my one artillery stock, non acceptance marked, Weimar era, it does have a serial number one it.

Bought / traded from well known artillery collector.

alanint 09-13-2013 02:46 PM

The bare wood evident where the top leather tongue has been recently removed from some of these stocks brings up a question;
Where stocks issued with bare, untreated wood?
Where they finished AFTER the leather trappings were added?, (which seems to be the case, if the finish was factory applied).
Is the finish we see on them today from the original manufacturer or the work of the various owners throughout the years?
Has anybody ever seen a completely pristine, unissued rig that they comment on?

wlyon 09-13-2013 04:19 PM

I don't think it is so much the treated or untreated. Mostly it's the difference from the parts exposure to elements , handling, dirt etc. They are bound to be different. Bill

lugerholsterrepair 09-13-2013 04:44 PM

Doug, Bill..I have seen quite a few of these as I work on Artillery rigs and have often wondered this myself. Usually when you take off the four screws and peel back the leather for the first time in many decades..likely since it was put on almost a hundred years ago..it looks totally unfinished. Kinda bare raw wood. Makes you wonder.

Norme 09-13-2013 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanint (Post 240363)
The bare wood evident where the top leather tongue has been recently removed from some of these stocks brings up a question;
Where stocks issued with bare, untreated wood?
Where they finished AFTER the leather trappings were added?, (which seems to be the case, if the finish was factory applied).
Is the finish we see on them today from the original manufacturer or the work of the various owners throughout the years?
Has anybody ever seen a completely pristine, unissued rig that they comment on?

Hi Doug, Luger stocks were finished prior to the attachment of the leather. I have an un-issued Navy stock, with pilot holes drilled for the leather attachment screws. It's finished all over.
Regards, Norm

lugerholsterrepair 09-13-2013 06:22 PM

Hi Doug, Luger stocks were finished prior to the attachment of the leather

Norm, your stock may be finished all over but I don't think you can make this statement with any certainty.

I have an un-issued Navy stock, with pilot holes drilled for the leather attachment screws. It's finished all over. Plural? Uh-OH!

If you have a Navy with more than one screw hole..something is amiss. That and can we ever be sure when a stock was last finished? 100 years ago or 25 years. Might be hard to say for sure.

cirelaw 09-13-2013 06:46 PM

With all those stock lugs did the great luger producers make stock other than those for the navy and artillery? Would the be legal if they did?~~Eric

lugerholsterrepair 09-13-2013 08:14 PM

No and no.


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