Just curious
 

Did the stocks and snail drums generally see a lot of service use or were they just experimental/fun attachments that never really caught on?

They were fully functional and effective accessories and saw considerable use. They saw extensive service in the later war years as assault unit weapons.

fun attachments that never really caught on? I have studied WW1 extensively most of my life and have to agree with Herr Wood.

fun attachments were a bottle of wine and a Frauline.

Ok, thanks guys. I was just curious based on their rarity nowadays.

There's all kinds of "tactical" nonsense that gets thrown on the AR platform nowadays. Were there any p08 developments that never quite took off?

Erma .22 Lugers and the Stainless steel American Eagle Lugers both come to mind. Seems like there was a full auto prototype mentioned somewhere along the line.
dju

A full-auto function for the Luger never took off because a standard magazine would be emptied in well under a second and a drum magazine in just a little over two seconds. It was uncontrollable and not even the most dextrous soldier could exercise a trigger pull that didn't empty the magazine.

The .45 caliber Luger was a development that never caught on. There just was never enough interest in it. :)

The .45 caliber Luger was a development that never caught on. There just was never enough interest in it.

There is now! Wish I had one...

Radium night sights for the luger never caught on:

http://www.lugerlp08.com/sudicatis.htm

http://luger.gunboards.com/showthrea...illery-experts

Jack

Does anyone express a warning regarding repos both drums and especially loaders in todays' market? ~~~Eric

Eric..WARNING? Can you be more specific? I have here the Numrich Arms repro drum and loader. Both are serviceable..and highly recognizable as reproductions.
Jerry

I'm not referring to Numrich Arms but private sales such as Ebay where even a seller might be unaware as to it authenticity!!!

Eric..There is a fake loader on eBay right now..$449 I think? One just has to know the small differences I guess.

My solution was George Anderson. My Italian adopted Italian Granny used to say, "Keep it in the Family"!

Long barrel Luger without stock attached must be very awkward to aim and shoot, especially considering user shooting pistols single hand in the past.

Long barreled handguns were around long before the Luger. The US Cavalry Colt had a 7-1/2 inch barrel, didn't seem to bother the horse soldiers much.

I am thinking the origin of attaching a stock to a handgun. When did it start? Was it a invention in 19th century, people started attaching stock to some large frame revolvers to increase shooting stability, and later the idea was applied on some large size self-loading pistols?

Once I saw a guy shooting a newly made 8" barrel stainless steel revolver in range. Not sure it's modified by him or it's factory configuration, the revolver had a long optical scope attached on the top. Of course, it bangs, but I wondered the effectiveness of that long barrel and scope on the revolver. The revolver leaks gas -- the longer barrel does not help much on increasing bullet speed. The DA trigger pull is heavy -- the unstable scope does not help much on aiming, it's just decoration.

Of course, that revolver cannot attach a stock due to U.S. gun law. Otherwise, at least the scope on that revolver could be helpful.

Alvin, I have seen many photo's of flint lock single shots with attachable stocks.

I shoot the 8" Artillery Luger frequently with no stock. I agree with Ron..not a big problem if you have a strong arm/wrist.

The 9mm round courts the upper limits of the system's mechanical and strength capabilities. The .45 ACP would demand even more from the gun's action. I think any of us would be interested in owning one in .45, but those produced nowadays--either by joining two halves+ of donor guns, or from scratch--are pretty pricey. Our pal Eugene G., the Lugerman, is on track to create a few, but that hasn't been mentioned in a year or more. Obviously, his rendition would need to account for the extra power/stresses of the .45 round, if/when it arrives.

S&W currently produces long barrel revolvers(8 in. and longer) in large bore centerfire calibers. They are used by many in place of rifles in large game (deer, hogs, elk, etc.) hunting. They are very successful in their endeavors with these weapons.

The long bbl. definitely increases velocity and bullet stabilization. The Scopes are extremely effective at 100 yards and longer.

The guy even invited me to shoot a few rounds from the revolver. Unfortunately, I was hurry to go home that day so I gave up the chance. Will try next time if I meet him again!

They are also used for silhouette shooting. I'm not sure if the long barrel increases velocity much, but the increased sight radius helps a lot.

Zombeer, In 1984 the German "Waffen Digest" published a 26 page article by Joachim Gortz & Reinhard Kornmayer of non-factory developed "improvement" (Ertindungen fur die Parabellum-Pistole) for the luger, including such items as the Ideal stock, scopes, snail drums, Benk/Theimann stock, subcaliber units, sear & mag safeties, experimental holster, even the Martz Safety Toggle Release (MSTR) and much more. To my knowledge this article has not ever been publish in English, which is a shame and perhaps a great project for one of our German speakers. TH PS: I had a German friend translate it for me on audio tape, which I've managed to loose over the years.

Not a Luger, but definitely a long barrel.
H&R Model 686 with 12" barrel, .22 and .22 MAG cylinders.
Best regards, Don

Sounds like an interesting idea. :thumbup:

(No, I don't speak or even read German) :(

A friend of mine has one just like it, and IIRC in about the same condition. I usually don't care much for H&R, but this one is gorgeous! :thumbup: