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padredan 12-11-2012 07:11 PM

Ho Ho Ho now i have a machine gun
 
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Ho Ho Ho now i have a machine gun .Think thats a quote from bruce willis's movie " Die Hard"

Steve Lempitski 12-11-2012 07:25 PM

Sweet toy!! History channel had a series on WW2 guns - said that Uncle Sam was paying $200.00 for a Thompson during WW2, meanwhile my grandfather was making $20.00 a week mounting AA guns at the Fore river Shipyard

alanint 12-11-2012 07:39 PM

Dan,

Is this a Savage or a West Hurley gun?

You need a correct Kerr "no-buckle" sling for it to get the maximum cool factor.

padredan 12-11-2012 08:00 PM

that would be a ????? how you say fake. Ho Ho Ho

NoncomRetired 12-11-2012 08:13 PM

When I arrived in Nam in Feb 68, my first unit I was assigned to had not upgraded there TO&E Table of Organization and Equipment and was still working on a 1958 TO&E. I was issued an M3 Grease Gun, **** lock and load, a piece of junk that rusted within an hour. Thump Thump Thump was it's firing sound. Why couldn't their TO&E had one of those Thompsons...............

alanint 12-11-2012 08:26 PM

Amen. Although a repro, get a repro Kerr sling for her. She will thank you!

padredan 12-11-2012 08:30 PM

I will let the owner i built it for know, thats the sling he provided for it.

BogeyB 12-11-2012 08:52 PM

Sweet! Is it a M1 or an M1A1?

Mike:cheers:

alanint 12-11-2012 09:02 PM

Impossible to tell unless it was real and had markings. Or you took a real one apart....

padredan 12-11-2012 09:03 PM

Actualy i am not sure of the difference

alanint 12-11-2012 09:08 PM

I posted this at one time. For a full explanation, search the site here. The short story is that the M1A has a hammer and spring loaded firing pin just like the 1921 or 1928 TSMGs. The M1A1 has a fixed firing pin milled directly into the bolt and no hammer or other internals. It is a true, direct blowback gun.

Dan, here is an example of the sling your customer needs. Look for the original TSMG manual online for how to mount this. It is not as simple as it might appear.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...ectorid=229466

padredan 12-11-2012 09:23 PM

thanks, he supplied all the parts , i just assembled it

rhuff 12-12-2012 04:58 PM

Even a non-firing replica looks super. They are just one weapon that are in a class all their own. Nobody mistakes that profile for other rifles.....or a least I don't think so. I bet your customer will be well pleased.

pitsword 12-12-2012 05:51 PM

Back in the days, on my Diesel Submarine, we had a gun locker full of "28's and M 1 Tommy's. I remember the stocks wobbled on the 28's and the M 1's were mint (like new). Later in 1967 on my first (only) nuke missile Boat, we still had a locker full of M 1 Tommy's. All of my boats had 1911's and a few Garands. IIRC, in the Thompsons we used 20 rd mags. I really loved the M 1, heavy but most comfortable and comforting. Go to youtube and check out USS Wahoo in WW2 and see what a Thompson and B A R could do to " Remember Pearl Harbor".:rockon:

Ice 12-12-2012 07:10 PM

Just flat out cool. I've always wanted a Thompson and an MP40. Even repro fakes would be nice. Just never had the cash and the opportunity to buy at the same time. Looks like a real good job. (applause). :D

Charlie

lugerholsterrepair 12-12-2012 08:00 PM

I can see that Bruce Willis would say this in the movies..Ho Ho Ho now i have a machine gun, but this is a SUBmachine gun. Cool though..good job.

padredan 12-12-2012 08:18 PM

thanks everyone, I think he said the parts and reciever came from sarco, in the movie i think he had a HK mp5.

padredan 12-12-2012 09:10 PM

This kit was a m1 kit , I think he had the kit for awhile looking for someone to assemble it. thats alot of cash for a bunch of parts plus you have to buy a reciever to, makes for a pricey display gun.

ithacaartist 12-12-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 224915)
WOW!!! Here's two Sarco ads for the Thompson kits - First is from the Aug 10th issue; second is the Dec 10th issue...

Below, they offer the Lyman sight for an additional c-note; I just forked over $175 to Sarco for a sight, all by itself. Best price I could find...other sellers start at $250! Read somewhere the 1917A1 sight leaf would fit, but those babies are in the $400 range!

Too bad we can't get these kits in NY state, huh?

Douglas Jr. 12-13-2012 06:38 AM

Nice work Padre!
It displays great for sure.
I own a M1A1, bought under stressing circumstances. With the time passing I learned how to enjoy it. The good note is that my little beast is live (not deact).

All the best,

Douglas.

padredan 12-13-2012 09:52 AM

thanks, the owner is a world war two renactor, so i guess i't's t for him to use for that. I think i heard a real functioning and trasferable thompson starts around 20k and goes up from there,so i guess these are alot cheaper, the owner gave me some parts i neeeded for my harley davidson to build it ,so we are both happy.

rhuff 12-13-2012 02:55 PM

You MIGHT be able to purchase an M1, or M1A1 for $20K, but a nice 1921,1925, 1928 will cost you more than that....at least in my part of the country. A good friend and a Class 3 dealer just paid(last year) $35K for a nice, but incorrect,1921 with an aftermarket hard case. A true original FBI hard case in excellent condition will bring $5K or more, with nothing in it!!! I guess that is just where they are these days. There aren't going to be any more unless we have another amnesty, and I wouldn't hold my breath for that to occur.

Arizona Slim 12-13-2012 04:09 PM

rhuff, you are making me cry, while stationed at Ft. Campbell, KY. in the early '60"s I had a friend that owned a gun shop in neighboring Tenn. that had what looked like a mint Thompson in the violin type case with a drum and two stick magazines, he wanted $300. for it, that's HUNDRED, I turned it down because I did not have the proper license to own an automatic weapon and I didn't want a visit from the FBI., when I turned him down he said he could take it to Chicago and get $500. for it. I don't know what became of it. He also had a full automatic pistol that he said was a .22 cal. Italian made pistol, we went out behind his shop and he fired off a clip full and I swear the empty's had the shortest spread coming out of that pistol I have ever seen, don't know what it was but it sure was impressive.

Lon

padredan 12-13-2012 06:56 PM

The owner says he has the correct sling ordered for it. 300 dollars was alot of money back in the 60's , i remember seeing my first realy nice luger in the early 60's with the matching holster, and he had paid 100.00 for it, i was thinking that guy was nuts to pay that. What did i know.

rhuff 12-14-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Arizona Slim (Post 224942)
rhuff, you are making me cry, while stationed at Ft. Campbell, KY. in the early '60"s I had a friend that owned a gun shop in neighboring Tenn. that had what looked like a mint Thompson in the violin type case with a drum and two stick magazines, he wanted $300. for it, that's HUNDRED, I turned it down because I did not have the proper license to own an automatic weapon and I didn't want a visit from the FBI., when I turned him down he said he could take it to Chicago and get $500. for it. I don't know what became of it. He also had a full automatic pistol that he said was a .22 cal. Italian made pistol, we went out behind his shop and he fired off a clip full and I swear the empty's had the shortest spread coming out of that pistol I have ever seen, don't know what it was but it sure was impressive.

Lon


I know what you mean about opportunities back in the "good old days". Many times the opportunities were there, but no money to take advantage of it. I purchased my 1928 TSM in 1971. It took 6 months for the Federal paperwork to go through, and it took me that long to get the dollars together to purchase it. I am soooooo glad that I did it now that the prices have gone nuts!! I couldn't purchase one today at these prices.

Steve Lempitski 12-14-2012 06:59 PM

2 months back I did an instrument repair at the NY State Police barracks in Albany. Across the hall from the crime lab was a rack of Thompsons. I told the lab supervisor I would gladly rip up the repair bill if they let me take one of them home....

ripcord810 12-17-2012 12:36 AM

A couple of years ago we had a full auto shoot that came to town twice a year. About 60 or 75 class 3 holders would attend and the public could watch for $5. On my first visit one of the regulars with a M1A1 offered to let me fire a full drum. I jumped at the chance. These guys also made sure that any child over 10 or so got a chance to fire an automatic. My son got to sit behind a 30 cal water cooled machine gun and fire off a full belt. Truely a great day for us both!! The shoot has sence been cancelled.

padredan 12-17-2012 01:51 AM

well, those days are growing to a close fast,

alanint 12-17-2012 05:24 AM

Sadly, that's true. Not only for liability reasons but also because ammo has gotten so expensive.

Ripcord, what you probalby fired was a 1921 or 1928 Thompson. The M1A1 is incapable of utilizing a drum magazine.

Steve Lempitski 12-17-2012 08:34 AM

Buddy of mine sold in the 80's what I understand was a very rare Thompson with a 100 round drum - his father was Deputy Chief of the Barnstable MA PD and aquired it in the 60s when taken out of service. He explained the rarity was due to the fact it was a .38 caliber not .45 ACP. Online research did state some were made in .38 super caliber.

rhuff 12-17-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Lempitski (Post 225197)
Buddy of mine sold in the 80's what I understand was a very rare Thompson with a 100 round drum - his father was Deputy Chief of the Barnstable MA PD and aquired it in the 60s when taken out of service. He explained the rarity was due to the fact it was a .38 caliber not .45 ACP. Online research did state some were made in .38 super caliber.




Now THAT would be worth a HUGE CHUNK OF CHANGE!!! I have read about them, but never seen one. When I purchased my TSM, I also purchased a "L"(50 round) drum.....it HAD to have a drum. I was offered a "C"(100 round) Drum for about twice the price of the "L" drum. I had no more money to spend, and, obviously, no forethought. They bring big bucks these days.

Steve Lempitski 12-17-2012 04:26 PM

He had to sell it as his father died, and here he is with an NFA weapon. As I recall he told me it went to a collector in TX, Anyway, Kevin did say the 100 round drum had BARNSTABLE PD in white lettering on the front for anybody facing the business end to clearly see LOL

ithacaartist 12-17-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 224920)
We can't??? :confused:

I had been seriously considering a kit when they were still $995...When did they stop allowing 'parts kits'???

Rich, my fingers were typing before my brain was engaged, but what I think I thought I meant was a kit married to a functional receiver, not all the parts added to a dummy. Um, that, in this case would be I!


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