Help with Luger
 

I am looking at possibly getting my first Luger. Saw this one for sale locally. It has 1940 and then 42 on the top. All numbers apear to match including mag. Any info or possible value would be greatly appreciated.

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Hope these pictures are decent enough.

I'd like to see better pictures of the finish as some photos look kind of "globby", like a dip re-finish, but most look OK. Numbers seem OK. What's he wanting for it? Holster, spare mag?
dju

Yeah sorry for the pictures. Asking 1000 and come as shown. Thank you

The photos look ok to me. It looks like a lot of oil on the gun. For a gun in this shape with original finish and a matching mag, $1,000 is a steal...

Agreed. A VERY attractive price if the finish is orig. If you were selling I'd guestimate $1700. dju

Thank you

I just want to test myself in what I am learning here.. but would I be paranoid if I said that the wear does not look proper for it being 'use' wear?

I don't think you would be paranoid at all. I look at the frame rails just over the takedown lever and it just looks too good. But some photos look correct. I'd like to have this one in my hands.
dju

A dip refinish should not look 'globby', it should look thin...If it looks like it was dipped in roofing tar, then it's not a dip blue...

My P-38 is a VoPo dip re-blue and looks very much like an original blue...I've heard some RC/VoPo refurbs look like they were tarred, but I've never seen one up close...

Just my $.02...

The dip finished ones that I have seen are a bit blacker and a tad bit thicker than standard salt bluing. Closer to paint actually. And the only part I'm questioning is the takedown lever on this gun, the rest either looks OK or the pictures are too poor to say otherwise. Like I said, I'd like to have it here in front of me, but given what we have here, I'll go ou t on the limb and accept it as original finish.
Certainly worth the $1000 asking price.
dju

Remember you are not seeing any frame wear above the takedown because in the photo provided the toggle is back and the upper receiver retracted behind the sideplate. Also, the bolt has a correct plum color for this era Mauser pistol. The very light wear on the grips also match the balance of the pistol's condition.

Hey, there were some people that obtained pistols back then and just put them away. They don't all have to beat up.

Thank you for the info and help.

You say 'locally' but have no location in your profile...So we don't know if you have local sales tax...Or if you're buying from a dealer or an individual...

But...If it was here in my state from a dealer I'd have to pay an extra 8% sales tax...From an individual, no sales tax...And no FFL fees...And no S&H fees...

It's a bird in the hand...Is it worth two in the bush??? ;)

Sorry about that, Memphis TN and it is from an individual.

Thanks

oh and the sales tax here is 9.25.

Go to the bank, get 9 $100 bills, offer him $800...Go to $850/$900 if you have to...If he doesn't go for it, say Thank You and walk away... ;)

Sometimes you eat the bear...Sometimes the bear eats you... :D

Am I missing something here? Are we talking about a matching WW2 Mauser Luger, with matching mag, very little bluing wear, good grips, no rust, no pitting, it isn't chrome plated, etc. And you 2 are going to argue with the seller because he wants $1000? For God's sake, give me the seller's number and I'll buy it. And I'm proudly known, far and wide, as a bottom feeding cheapskate.
dju

I think it's called 'negotiating'...And it's part of the total experience... ;)

Some would say it's part of the 'fun'...

Hi Andrew, I agree with David. Buy the gun for $1,000.00 and pay the sales tax. You're getting a great deal and Tennessee needs the money. Regards, Norm

+1 $1k seems like a price that would be very fair to you; be careful not to "negotiate" yourself right out of a deal! Walking away from this one would seem like a waste of shoe leather (sorry, postie).

No problemo!

I suppose you all pay whatever a salesman quotes as the sale price??? :rolleyes:

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Why would he have to pay sales tax if he's buying from an individual??? I'm in NYS and if you buy a handgun from an individual, there is no place to pay the 'sales tax'. The pistol permit office won't take it, and there is no walk-in sales tax office listed in the phone book...Only dealers have to charge/file sales tax...

Sounds good. thanks for the advice and persuasion.

Postino:
No, to the contrary I always try to get the best deal that I can. Always. However $1000 is very reasonable for that gun, so I'd not want to take a hard line on the dealings. Offer him $900 cash, hymm and haw a little bit, and buy the gun. Regardless.
But that issue of sales tax does frost my ----. 9+% is high, and unless he is a dealer or has a sales tax number, it seems unnecessary. Here in Nebr. it is the duty of the buyer to report the out-of -state or private purchase to the County Treasurer, and pay the sales tax at that time. But only a licensed dealer has the tax number and is expected to collect the tax. But I'm sure all states are diff.
Anyway, I hope you enjoy this Luger, and may it be your first of many.
dju

Well just bought it. Just need to meet and trade $900 and its mine. I'm pretty excited since I have been wanting one for a decade now. I appreciate all the help, input and guidance. I promise to take better pictures when I get it.

Thanks again

Well, it depends. If it's a used car or similarly marketed item, then no. If it's a genuine article and they're asking half price, straight up, then much more likely.

I think a moderate approach was appropriate and it turned out successful here in this deal. I'd have been concerned that an $800 counter offer might have bordered on the insulting; and if the seller discovered the ultimate worth of the pistol afterwards, there might be hard feelings. I think any seller will entertain a counter offer to their asking price, at which point they can counter with a new asking price; yup, negotiation. I feel it's OK to get a really good price by negotiating for something, but would feel weird about coming away too successful as a result of a seller's ignorance. But there is plenty of middle ground and room for rationalization! Presuming the seller is an adult, it's really up to them to do the research to determine what they are selling, or get some help doing it. A seller's failure to use due diligence this way will reap its own reward, likely in a reduced price. I'd just try to stop short of robbing war widows, etc.

Anyway, a handsome pistol...I'd have bought it( though I might have paid $100 more for it!:rolleyes:) with little hesitation.

I like to give a low-ball cash price [show the cash, not a check] to see how frantic they are to sell... :rolleyes:

All kidding aside, there's a thread in the Krieghoff forum (IIRC) about a member who bought two Lugers from a guy standing near the wall at a gun show...It makes interesting reading... ;)

Hi Rich, I negotiate prices for a living, and I have to tell you that until you have dealt with Iranians and Indians, who have developed chiseling into an art form over many centuries, you don't know what negotiating is. However, when someone offers me something for half what it's worth, I pay the asking price and say "thank you".
Best regards, Norm

I've done that too...and then ran like hell... :p

(Is that American Indians or India Indians???)

As promised, here are some hopefully better pics.
Also I am not able to upload multiple pics per reply?

Anyways here they are and thanks again

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