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CoyoteM4 10-26-2012 04:38 PM

Anyone getting a STG-44 (22 LR) carbine?
 
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Was at my local haunt last night looking at some pistols and saw one of these just came in - on the rack for $550. "American Tactical Imports GSG Schmeisser STG-44 Carbine with Wood Stock" - Came home and found the same price online. As cool as this is, I just don't know if I can go $550 on a 22. Definitely wouldn't have any authentic feel in 22, but who wouldn't like having that sitting on your gun rack?

I don't know how many they will produce of this, might be worth getting just to have. I thought maybe there had been a replica produced in low numbers in the past, but I'm not positive.

rhuff 10-26-2012 05:57 PM

I have seen the ads for this rifle, but have not laid my hands on one as yet. At $550, that is stepping up price wise, but it does look interesting, to say the least. I feel sure that it would be an attention getter at the range.

Dan44 10-26-2012 08:29 PM

Yeah, I did an impulse buy. Very heavy for a 22lr.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ofDSCN0419.jpg

hansfischer007 10-26-2012 09:05 PM

Caliber....
 
Ive seen the ads for this as well......and just wish they had at least gone to .22 Magnum........a little more kick to it.......

lew1 10-26-2012 11:05 PM

I was at the South Carolina Arms Collectors show in Greenville this past weekend and the friend I was visiting acquired one for himself. I left for home before he had a chance to try it out. But it felt nice to hold. It is heavy.

One thing I would like to see is a small magazine as the one that comes with the rifle can be difficult if one uses a bench or a prone position to shoot it.

padredan 10-27-2012 07:56 AM

looks nice, waiting to see how well they work, i like hearing they have some heft to them.

lew1 10-27-2012 09:09 AM

The rifle is easy to store. It comes in a wood crate - with the stock removed. Two pieces - but very easy to put together as only "one" pin is needed.

aptech77 10-27-2012 09:26 AM

A close source tells me its going to be made in a true .30 cal rifle round in the near future.

alanint 10-27-2012 11:29 AM

There are several companies making them, including a German company. The problem currently is the price, in the $5K area.

mjanway 10-27-2012 06:32 PM

Very nice. Saw a Thompson in 22LR this week at a shop and Citadel has the M1 Carbine out in 22LR (has been some problems with this one). So I second the motion for a MP40 and maybe a few others.

aptech77 10-28-2012 11:42 AM

Rumor has it they are going to come out with a .308 version......will see.

CoyoteM4 10-29-2012 08:53 AM

Yes, forgot the mention the heft - It does feel like you're holding a battle rifle, not a 22.

If they do make a .30 cal version, I would expect you'd multiply the 22 price more than a couple times.

That's what I thought ALANINT - I swore I had seen some 7.92x33 style reproduction above $4k at one point.

These are made in Germany by GSG for ATI as I understand, might be one in the same - ATI might be testing the waters?

I think I'll keep my eyes peeled for a used one at some point - not at all crazy about a 22, but it would be a lot of cheap shooting. I also didn't see that it came with a cool wooden crate, if I could confirm this is an LE, I would go snap one up.

CoyoteM4 11-06-2012 03:45 PM

If anyone is looking for this rifle - they run a couple bucks cheaper online at Buds - $510 cash price - not bad.

tx_oil 11-06-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aptech77 (Post 222410)
Rumor has it they are going to come out with a .308 version......will see.


PTR was selling a 7.62x39 version of this in 2009... IIRC it was close to 5K. OUCH!

415m3 11-06-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 222336)
I'm hoping it sells well...I'd like to see the same company/manufacturer put out a MP-40 replica, any caliber... :)

At this year's Shot Show, they had a prototype of the MP-40 version. Slated for release in 2013 if they can get the final version working properly.

Edward Tinker 11-06-2012 07:09 PM

very cool, I would like to have it in 9mm / kind of a stronger cartridge but not a full WW2 battle rifle

Olle 11-07-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 415m3 (Post 222893)
At this year's Shot Show, they had a prototype of the MP-40 version. Slated for release in 2013 if they can get the final version working properly.

Did you get to see it? I read a statement (straight from GSG, IIRC) saying that they were going to add a dummy silencer to make the barrel 16" (just like they did on the MP5s). Sounds like a total turnoff to me, I would rather see a permanently folded stock... Or why not an SBR version?

skeeter4206 11-07-2012 05:22 PM

I always though that the STG-44 was a unique gun for its time. I bet It would definitly be a coversation piece around the house. And a .30 cal bullet in it. Now thats awesome.

Gary H 11-11-2012 08:45 PM

gunsmagazine.com review
 
http://www.gunsmagazine.com/what-a-rimfire/

It looks promising! One of my L.E. friends once took a picture of me posing with the real deal but I never got to fire it. :mad:
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but to sell it in anything but .22 in the U.S. they'd have to manufacture it here, right?

irishcop45 11-11-2012 08:49 PM

I just saw one of these at a local dealer yesterday, complete in its wooden packing crate! I really think this is the second golden age of firearms, as you can pretty much find anything that was ever made being remanufactured again.

alanint 11-12-2012 09:29 AM

But not always at a reasonable price. I lost $1,500 to a crook out in WA. state, who was recreating an exact replica of the FJ 42, (first model) in it's original 8mm. configuration. The estimated cost when from an original $4,000 to $10,000, until a number of original depositors banned together and called a halt to the hikes, at which time this crook closed his doors and walked with all the initial investor's money. He got to keep the 2-3 completed prototypes he created and we lost our seed money.
Most of the rare German WW2 guns, (MP44, MkB 42H, FJ 42 first and second mode) are being manufactured in semi and in original calibers or 7.62x39 in Germany at reasonable prices. Our own idiotic gun laws are the only thing preventing us from owning any of these.

Olle 11-14-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 223205)
I got my local GS interested in ordering one...He already has one of ATI's GSG replica .22 rifles...but ATI says they're still not in stock...

http://www.americantactical.us/3108/detail.html

This item is currently out of stock. Click the Notify Me button to be notified when the product becomes available.

...I'm still waiting to be notified... :mad:

It might be like that for a while, my gut feeling is that the scalpers are buying every gun they can find. Don't be surprised if you find one for $650-$700 at the next gun show...

rhuff 11-14-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 223205)
I got my local GS interested in ordering one...He already has one of ATI's GSG replica .22 rifles...but ATI says they're still not in stock...

http://www.americantactical.us/3108/detail.html

This item is currently out of stock. Click the Notify Me button to be notified when the product becomes available.

...I'm still waiting to be notified... :mad:



I am doing the same thing for the ATI/GSG 1911-22 with the short (3.2in) barrel. They were supposed to be available in early August, but .......... So I wait.

Ice 12-01-2012 06:54 PM

That's a pretty cool semi-aito you bought. Certainly an attention getter. Looking forward to your range report. Enjoyed your post and photos.

Charlie

rolandtg 12-01-2012 06:56 PM

Is it full-size? Same size as the originals?

pitsword 12-01-2012 08:37 PM

Hey Richie, nice toy. The alloy is "Zamak..sp" a zinc alloy. That is what my GSG 5 is made of. I added a real mp 5 solid stock and real pins and enjoy shooting it. Mags do warrant some watching.
Vince

apis mellifera 12-01-2012 08:56 PM

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Here is a comparison of a real STG-44 and the .22 version

apis mellifera 12-01-2012 08:58 PM

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and an overlay. The .22 is in white. Looks like the magazine angle is slightly different and the receiver is more thin.

apis mellifera 12-01-2012 10:41 PM

No, it belongs to wiki.

I was just curious how accurate the replica is. It looks pretty close. Much better looking than, say, a .22 Luger or that MG42 dress-up kit for the Ruger 10/22.

rolandtg 12-01-2012 11:04 PM

Neat! Looks like a pretty accurate reproduction. It will certainly garner some attention at the range I imagine. :)

pitsword 12-02-2012 10:09 AM

Rich, my '42 Long Branch has a Zamak butt plate. All others that I have had brass. Tell us more about your #5 conversions.

pitsword 12-02-2012 01:46 PM

Nice work. Does that sight mount into the ejector screw hole?

rhuff 12-03-2012 05:36 PM

There is a nice write up on this weapon in the Jan 2013 issue of Guns Magazine. The author liked it very much, and was impressed with the fit/finish/accuracy of the rifle.

Dan44 12-07-2012 01:08 AM

Have you seen this full auto vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZA8...ature=youtu.be

suum cuique 12-18-2012 04:14 PM

GSG StG44 Manufacturer's website with data:
http://www.gsg-waffen.de/site/index..../stg44-tech-de

Or check this out, civilian version of the MG42 (not a full auto version)
http://www.hessenarms.de/

new civilian version of the MP40 as a "semi auto rifle", so called BD38 9mm
http://hza-kulmbach.de/index.php?opt...mid=63&lang=de

Enjoy...

CoyoteM4 12-19-2012 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 224299)
My apologies to Mike [CoyoteM4] for hijacking his thread...Sorry Mike! :(

I'm trying to find some 'champage' colored spray paint to do my GSG-StG44 more like the real thing...Here's what I'm aiming for [no pun intended]...(Also need to find some steel-blue spray paint too)...And re-shape the buttstock... :p

Not a problem, loving the custom work and all the posted info. :cool:

alanint 12-19-2012 07:11 AM

Remember that only very late war STg44s had these different tones on various parts of the gun. This is because Stg44s were assembled from parts produced by various manufacturers and some were authorized to use what is essentially a clear parkerizing process as a cost cutting measure. You might consider stripping the finish off these parts, if they are metal and finish them with a matt or opaque clear finish.
Also, Brownells has a number of "Gun Kote" spray finish products, which mimick parquerization. These are oven cured finishes and very durable. You might find what you are looking for there.

Olle 12-19-2012 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint (Post 225376)
Also, Brownells has a number of "Gun Kote" spray finish products, which mimick parquerization. These are oven cured finishes and very durable. You might find what you are looking for there.

I saw a 1911 that had been sprayed with something like that at a gun show, and it was a dead ringer for Parkerizing. It had the right texture and sheen and it was very thin with no signs of the build-up you see with other spray coatings, so it would have fooled me if the seller hadn't told me. He said it was Duracoat, but that name is used rather loosely so it could just as well be Brownell's own brand.

padredan 01-18-2013 02:17 PM

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fun, in alot of ways

rhuff 01-18-2013 04:06 PM

You look like you are having waaaaay too much fun LOL!!! Enjoy.:jumper:


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