Shot Gun for Enfield No 2
 

Came across a guy looking to trade this Enfield NO 2 .32 for a double barrel shot gun. I had a Springfield side by side 16 ga (pre model 5100) I've had for many years sitting in the gun cabinet. I had to kick in $100 to make the deal but think it was worth it. I know nothing about this old pistol other than all the numbers match on the cylinder, frame, barrel, and it is very tight. I am more of a ww2 collector and thinking of trying to trade it for a P38? Any thoughts?

Your gun is interesting but I don't believe it ever left the factory with that super short barrel. It has been altered so would have no real interest to a collector.

Interesting.
here's an article that discusses the "snub nose" Enfield.
http://www.nrvoutdoors.com/ENFIELD%2...ELD%20SNUB.htm

Day-em!!! That is a short cylinder!!! :eek:

The cartridge must be as wide as it is long!!! :D

But a very cool snub-nose! :thumbup:

(Looks like something I would have thought up...hmmmm...) :evilgrin:

I'll have to keep a lookout for one of those...

Dave, can you show a side view of the complete revolver??? My monitor is cutting off the grip in the pics...

Edit: Well! There's one on GB right now, and a factory refurb at that...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=298359947

Have to check that in 3 days and see what it goes for...but I like Dave's better... :p

The .38 S&W is a fairly anemic load, but believed effective in Europe at that time.

I'll be interested in seeing what that one sells for.. With an estimate of less than 500 of them maybe I should hang on to it

...But they're dealer/importer conversions...Not factory issued...

I'd be surprised if the one on GB hits $500... :rolleyes:

well I have just under $300 in this one and I agree it looks better than that one. Don't think I did to bad.

I think you did good, too...but it's hard to tell with only half a grip... :D

Make that front sight snag proof, it wouldn't be a bad carry gun.

I asked the mates at Surplusrifles/Enfield what the markings meant on that GB snubbie...

Not in .38 S&W it would'nt, unless you merely want to annoy your assailant..

Looking at your pics, Dave, your No 2 has the E in a D I ** but is not an FTR...It does have the British export firing proofs (the 3.7 Tons, .707" ? , .38, and a stylized "S" I think)...The ESC 320 is vaguely familiar...but I don't recall what it means...

(Heh...I like the itty bitty screw in the front sight blade)... :D

Occasionally you see these with a brass [sometimes steel] disc in the right grip panel...With or without markings...they were for unit identification...Unit designations stamped into the disc...Sometimes if you have a blank disc, it has been turned over to hide the unit markings...or completely removed to prevent your unit being known...Most times just a blank disc, as the FTR re-issues would be...

(Pic of a disc on the FTR'd GB No 2 below)

(It has the rounded front sight blade) ;)

Dave, you have a cool little revolver... :thumbup:

Doug, I looked up the 38 S&W cartridge compared to the 9mm Parabellum...It's not all that far off... :rolleyes:

Hmmmm...I just re-read Dave's first post...Doug, Dave wrote that it is a .32...but the export proofs look to me to be ".38"...

yes, it's .38 I made a typo.. sorry

This pistol does have the brass disc on the right side grip. It has a #4 in it?

Can you take a pic of the whole right side, and maybe a closeup of the disc as well???

Sorry, should have done that to begin with.

Guess I should have put my glasses on as that certainly isnt a 4!! lol

Nope, that's the 'broad arrow'. Is it held in with a screw ? (Enfield rifle discs are held in with a screw - I have a couple from my rifles). If it comes off easily, there may be a unit designation on the back side.

Yes, it is held in with a screw. I took it apart and removed disc. No markings at all.

Still a conversation piece with the 'government property' [broad arrow] marking... :thumbup:

Doug, you are so *down* on this cartridge!!! :D

Pic below is a 38 S&W from my cartridge collection, compared to a 9mm Parabellum...

My 1970 Lyman 45th Edition Reloading Handbook lists 38 S&W loads of 121 gr cast bullet w/5.0 gr Unique and 133 grain cast bullet w/4.8 gr Unique as both developing over 1000 fps...that's pretty close to 9mm military loading (back then)... :thumbup:

* (Only recommended for solid frame revolvers)

Thank you for posting your new snubby! I have never seen one of those before, and find it most interesting, to say the least. I had an old box of English 380/200 ammo for many years, but a friend told me that he had his father's revolver (breaktop) in that caliber, so I made them a present to him. I don't know if he ever shot the revolver or not. Do you plan to ever shoot your revolver?

I was browsing Midway and noticed that they have several brands of 38 S&W...From some of the comments, it seems to be popular for Cowboy Action Shooters...Remington has some that looks fairly mild...

Technical Information
Caliber: 38 S&W
Bullet Weight: 146 Grain
Bullet Style: Lead Round Nose
Case Type: Brass

Ballistics Information:
Muzzle Velocity: 685 fps
Muzzle Energy: 150 ft. lbs.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/877...nose-box-of-50

Its more about the lack of loadings than the actual power. There are no really decent defense loads available for the .38 S&W. and I would not want to carry handloads due to liability.

Probably due to the large number of top-break revolvers which are old and not 'robust' enough to handle hot loads... :(

The one i own seems to be able to take out any threat you may encounter from any zombie televisions. Beyond that who knows, actualy a very pleasant round.

There's a Ten X 150gr. flat point bullet that looks interesting, too bad it's only at 600fps. If it wasn't for the liabilty thing that bullet with more power behind it wouldn't be too bad of a loading.

I do plan to fire it at some point if I don't trade it off first.

I guess they're not as rare as some sites say...Besides the one(s) on GB, there's two on GA...Here's one of them...

Sort of disappointing...

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Lee Enfield No. 2 38 S&W Revolver 2" Barrel

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