Need some advice
 

Hi, just join the forum.

I am looking to purchase a shooter type Luger to start my collection. Can anyone help me with pricing? what's my realistic chance of getting one for under a $800? that's about my budget at the moment.

thanks,

Quite good. Check the For Sale sub-forum; they're posted often.

...and Welcome!

John, moved your thread to the New Collectors area.

You should think about, are you looking for a luger, or a luger from a certain time period?

If I were looking for a good shooter, I'd be all over the one the DZ currently has listed for sale. He's a good guy and the gun looks like a good value.
dju

Thanks, to answer your question, i guess i don't have a specific time period or type in mind, right now i just want something that shoots well, and functions normally, and not missing any parts.

you also need to decide on 9 mm or 30 caliber. price of 30 is high.

This can sometimes be a problem if you buy from a dealer that does not shoot his merchandise. If you buy from an individual that is a shooter, then he can confirm shooting status.

I am looking for a 9mm shooter.

in regard to your first question. You should be able to get a real humdinger. You in my opinion should look for an all matching pistol that has been refinished or has cosmetic deficiency's and you should be able to find one of those for around 800.00 online or perhaps locally in your area. If you buy online factor in the ffl transfer fee and shipping wich runs between 35-100$ depending on how you do it.
As long as it is not a rare variation paying more then that for a shooter is pointless in my humble opinion its not like they are colt single actions or something :) . Your best bet is on this forum becuase simsons ltd is charging 900 minimum on anything.

Thank you sir, i will keep checking this forum for deals.

I can wait.

also check jan stills gunboards
http://luger.gunboards.com

Looking at that site now, thanks.

A Friend warn me about "Fake" lugers out there, but i figure for $800 as my spending limit for my first luger, does it really matter? If all i wanted is a shooter to flash it around my local NRA RANGE?

Its pathetic the amount of fakes that have been perpetrated since as early as the 50's probably.
You can always count on someone wanting to make a buck.
You are correct sir , about 1500-450 is what a shooter grade price range falls into depending on righteousness , flavor , caliber , maker.

a run of the mill dwm circa ww1 to a mauser or simson all the way up to a krieghoff , russian or friekorps marked .

Haha, I guess i am safe then, if all i care about is a good SHOOTING gun with a decent bore, markings, proofs....etc they can all be scrubbed for now, and i won't pay a cent more than $801 before shipping and TRANSFER FEE.

Are you two referring to fake collectible Lugers??? I can't imagine anything else being 'faked' as a Luger (except maybe ERMAs).

It would not be profitable to 'fake' an $800 shooter...IMO anyway... :p

I don't think there are many "fake" Lugers, however there are many real Lugers that have been changed or marked to increase there value based on rarity or variation.There are many Lugers that have been made up of parts from other different Lugers, but that does not make them "fake"

If your looking for a shooter, I don't think you need to worry about a fake Luger. But you might want to stick to a 9mm as ammo for a .30 cal is sometime hard to find and is expensive
buy a Luger that shoots and meets your needs.

Jim

Yeah, i should be fine, 9mm is what i am looking for .30 luger is cool, but i think i will have problem getting ammo.

This looks to be a decent deal on a shooter. Looks to be refinished. The price is right on it, no matter what.


http://www.gunsamerica.com/963495360...P08_Luger.htm#

Not even worth close to $1500. Presently at $670 with no reserve. Wouldn't go over $700-$750 on it.

IMHO, there are more "faked' lugers out there because the average dealer knows nothing about them and misdescribes them. I also belive that more lugers are damaged by Americans than Germans. Most Americans don;t know how to disassemble them and use a screw driver or some other kind of force on the take-down lever. They also don't know how to reassemble them.Most fakes are so poorly done that they are apparent to almost any informed buyer. However most buyers never seem to inform themselves. My rule, unless you can hold it in your hand "Don't buy it"

Nice looking gun $1500 is out of my range.

I am not worry about "fakes" not at my price range anyway.

Saw scrubbed Luger sold earlier today for $586

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=292119067

anyway put down a bid on a ERFURT made LUGER hopefully i win.

Saw scrubbed Luger sold earlier today for $586

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=292119067

good price. It has the milled out safety. probably about 650 after fees and shipping or a little more.

That's why i am here to get some "EDU-MA-CATION" Hehehe

Ok, My shooter is on the way, mis-match 1918/1920 double date ERFURT.

Now question on ammo, is it okay to shoot cheap Russian ammo, or WAL-MART winchester bulk pack ammo out of this LUGER?

thanks,

Winchester White Box would be infinitely more recommended than any Russian ammo, especially steel cased.

what about bullet weight? 124, 147grain? are those okay?

and also will it eat Hollow point?

thanks,

The 124 grain tends to hit closer to point of aim at 25 yard and less ranges. I own a couple of Lugers that will eat any bullet configuration you feed through them and others that simply will not. It will be the luck of the draw.
(I would not recommend carrying the gun for self defense, if this is the intent. I would opt for a modern handgun offering).

yeah, sorry i didn't want to make it sound like i was gonna use it for self defense or any of the sort. I was looking for a range gun, but it sure is nice to know that LUGER world eat them just the same.

I have Glock 17 and Springfield XDM for self defense purpose.

Oh finally before i forget, anything wrong with shooting BLAZER Aluminum case ammo?

No problem with Blazer. At the end of the day, the gun will tell you what it likes. Just avoid steel case, +P or +P+ ammo.

I just shot a box of Blazer and it was fine...

I tried a few Wolf(steel cased) 115gr FMJ ammo in two of my Lugers just because I have a lot of it. It was just a test, and it FAILED miserably in both guns!! I have had my best luck with PMC 115gr FMJ, but WWB and Federal Champion 115gr FMJ will run in my Mauser Parabellum.

I shoot a lot of WWB and it always seems to work well.

I get Wal-Mart winchester bulk whenever i can, but most of my ammo is wolf steel case, and Blazer ALUM stuff.

I will try it in my gun, but i guess i will save the wolf for my Glock.

Just bought 4 boxes of .32acp Blazer for my self-defense Mauser Pocket 1934 (old gun, new role). Will try over this weekend.