Applied for C & R license...
 

Hi All,

I completed the application for the C&R license and the citizenship certification and mailed it yesterday.

The BATFE website says that it takes approximately 2-3 months for the processing.

Has anyone applied and gotten the license in less time?

regards,
Richard

Yes I have. About 3 weeks ago, I got mine back in about 4 weeks from the date I mailed it.

Not sure about the citizenship part, that could add some time to it.

Just thought of doing this myself......how bad was it?

It took about 3 weeks for me to receive my C&R FFL after I mailed it to them.

The process is not difficult.

You'll receive a good size package with a reference book, CD and information.

Be sure to notify your local sheriff or PD when you receive it.

Keep good, current accurate logs.

There is one danger. They are something like a license to spend money...

Cheers!

Marc

Yeah not bad at all. I sent them a copy of what I mailed off to the BATFE. You have to fill out two copies and send one to local sheriff or pd and the other to the BATFE.
I got the packet stuff about a week or two after I got my C&R

Got mine in about 3 1/2 weeks. Painless, except for the checkbook crying. I found a fairly inexpensive C&R logbook on line. It makes the record keeping easy.

I get as excited as a schoolgirl when the "Brown Truck O' Happiness" show up at the door. :jumper:

Regards,

John C.

I am surprised that you got a C & R without doing the Citzenship Cert; unless, I misread the instructions, that is a required document...I am sure that in the instructions it said that if you did not attest to US citizenship, the C & R application could not be processed and would be returned.

I could be mistaken though.

Anyway, I printed it out and signed it.

I just went to the BATF website:

I misread what the other document was:

The BATFE site says:

In addition to the below documents, applications must be accompanied by a signed Certification of Compliance (ATF F 5330.20) for each additional Responsible Person (RP) on the license, if applicable. :eek:

The other document was not a citizenship document it was some kinda certification if there were multiple names on the C&R application.

My Bad...I include the other document even though the C&R application was for me only...oh, well, I hope it does not confuse them too much...:confused:

Yeah I had some struggles with it too, then I read over the middle page(I think it was) between the first copy and the copy you send to the local PD and each definition then it became clear to me. One thing is when and if you get one, make sure you sign the C&R cert before faxing it to anywhere you desire to make purchases, I noticed I had to sign and date it after I faxed it off....oops, lol :)

Let me ask you this about the C&R License, do you think it's worth having if you're not a collector and you think you may realistically use it for maybe 2 firearm purchases and a few parts here & there?

Robb

Having a C&R FFL is always a good thing, regarless of how often you use it. Brownells, for example, gives me dealer pricing on all items because I have an C&R FFL and a corporation on file with them.

The C&R really comes in handy for internet purchases of antiques like Lugers, Mausers, Mosin Nagants, Lee Enfields, Webleys, etc...

You save on the fee that you have to pay to a FFL dealer to handle the transaction local to you.

With a C&R, the seller can send the pistol, rifle, etc... directly to you.

And as alanint says, there are sometimes discounts with the seller for having one.

Since it is only $30.00, I'd get one...you reap that back on the first internet purchase in which you do not have to get an FFL dealer involved in the shipping.

Go for it!

Yeah even though my FFL only charges $10 for each gun and a $10 background, after purchasing 3 C&R firearms, right there, if I did one at a time, paid for my C&R and saved me $30 total for 3 background checks.

Yes as alanint says, you get dealer pricing at on anything at places like Sinclairs/Brownells and Midway as well.

Well,

I applied for the C & R on 8 May 2012.
My credit card was billed within 3 days.
It is now 5 June 2012 and I have heard nothing. :eek:

I know the party-line is that it can take 3 months for approval and receipt of the C & R; however, I have been reading on other sites where the applications were processed in about 3 weeks. :)

Where's mine?!?! :confused:

Don't these fine government employees understand that I have Lugers to buy!!!
This will stimulate the economy!!!
Gezzzz!!!
Am I missing something... :mad:

Thanks for letting me vent...:rolleyes:

für Gott, Kaiser, und Vaterland... :thumbsup:

Richard

I heard of this license back in 2005 from a Mass relic dealer who was listing a Mauser pistol. State law defines a good-pistol-list and resident can buy with a state issued permit (LTC). Unfortunately, Mauser was not on the list (no old pistols on the list, but the list has SIG 239, etc. modern 'good' ones). One thing that I did not understand at that time -- Mass residents could not buy it, to whom you would sell this gun to?? And, he's kind. He briefly told me there is a C&R license that you could apply. So this license is not optional for C&R collectors in this state. Without C&R FFL, new owners must learn how to love SIG, Springfield 1911, etc. Fairly speaking, that pistol list is not very short, all modern production though.

Man, I need to get my paperwork sent.......

There was some issues with my renewal, and I started E mailing the agency, which apparently forwarded them to the right party. Communication began and problem solved. So if you are not feeling the love, try contacting them via E mail, and you may be surprised.
dju

Thanks David, I am just emailed them...I think I will call as well...

Richard

I have a question about paperwork. One of the question asks if I have a valid hunting or license issued by the state in which I will conduct my c&r. I do not have a hunting license because I do not hunt. On the paperwork this is grounds for refusal for I can't legally own a firearm. This is not true. I live in the great state if IL, and I have a valid FOID, which allows me to legally own firearms. A friend of mine with an FFL, told me to put down my FOID number and that should work. I have found info online and they state that you do not need a hunting license to get a c&r. Any ideas?

Put down the FOID. They have no reason to ask for a hunting license in the first place.

When did this start?

If you look into the ATF regulations associated with a C&R license, you'll find a requirement to comply with all state and local laws.

Thus, even with a C&R License, if your state requires a FOID to own a pistol, you must have one to purchase a pistol.

In North Carolina, we must either get individual authorization permits from the local sheriff to buy handguns, or must have a NC Concealed Carry Handgun permit.

In Illinois, you must have a FOID to purchase a handgun. If you live in a state with such laws, and you don't have the state or local permit, it could be grounds for ATF to reject your application. That might be the basis for asking about it on the ATF application.

Marc

What the heck is a FOID?

My C&R license took only a few weeks to get it. Best thing I ever did. Has saved me alot of $$$.

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What the heck is a FOID?

A FOID is a "Firearm Owners Identification card", all gun owners in IL must have one, for aLL types of firearms.

I am in florida. Do you still requira a seperate carriers' permit to buy at a gun at our shows? Is there a seperate for autos?

For those wondering about the FOID
Here is a article that came out 05/04/12.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1477265.html

Bob

It's my understanding (and GB auctions seem to bear this out) that New York State does not honor C&R licenses... :(

That explains why the New Yorkers escape here to Florida!!

Thats why all the tourist come on down!

BATF information
 

I am not totally sure but I believe that the question you are referring to is applicable only if you are NOT a US citizen; but, you really need to read all the questions in the sections leading to any section carefully. Parts of the application do not apply to all applicants.

REPEAT: You should read the questions VERY, VERY carefully; they can be misleading. :confused:

Also, read the instructions at the bottom of the entire form; if you are still unsure of a question use these links to call for help:
Here is a link to a BATF directory in WV: BATF Directory

This is also a useful link: BATF Useful link

And, as a bonus, here is a link to a sample form that helps clarify the application: Sample Application Filled Out.

I did not answer one of the questions correctly. I misinterpreted it. It has taken a month for them to let me know this and that was only after I called them repeatedly for two days. :eek:

The BATF has 60 days to adjudicate an application; however, I am not sure when the clock is started. I think it is started from the point at which they have a complete application.

Review your application VERY carefully before sending it.

Learn from my mistake. :rolleyes:

I hope you find this post helpful...

Richard


Oh, BTW, the C & R application is only a Federal requirement. You must also comply with any state requirements as well; with luck, you may live in a state that has no requirements beyond the Federal ones.

Any update? Mine was processed last week, now we wait.....

C & R arrived!!!
 

Hi all,

Well, after the initial hurdles, all is well.

In fact, I must give credit where it is due.
When the omission was corrected, the application was entered into the system on 9 June and approved on 27 June and I received it on 2 July!

Actually, that is not bad.

So I am legal! :thumbup:

Richard

According to the chat I had with my transfer dealer in Interlaken a couple of weeks ago, you are correct! The C&R is effectively only good in NYS for obtaining the discounts from suppliers. FFL is required for any pistol transfer, even receiving a pistol from the seller requires the seller to use FFL to send. This kinda doubles the transfer fee if you're buying one on G.B. from an individual and not an FFL dealer.

Long guns do not require any paperwork unless you're buying from a dealer, who will do the background check. Private, undocumented sale of rifles and shotguns is OK.

Guess it was a choice between states' rights and ours, and we lost. Most other states don't make it so tough, except maybe Mass. and Kalif.

David Parker

With C&R license, C&R guns are OK in Mass. But they successfully turned gun right off, and replaced that with a plastic "Permit" card. Modern rifle fans suffer in Mass. though, the 1994 "AWB" does not sunset in this state.

California situation is worse.