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padredan 04-25-2012 12:58 AM

Mr Bill's 1917 Erfurt finds a new home
 
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Mr bill Lyons 1917 luger came to live with me today and we gave it a fond welcome, and no luger celebration is comeplete with out party hats and a sargent Schutze impression. Thanks Again mr bill Lyons for your honesty it has been a pleasure to deal with you. I will give it a good home. All my best Padre

padredan 04-25-2012 01:03 AM

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oh and by the way i did not win the schultze look alike contest.

padredan 04-25-2012 01:10 AM

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Isn't she a beauty, if i get a chance i will fire a few rounds thru her tommorrow and let you know how she shoots.

sheepherder 04-25-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by padredan (Post 212157)
Mr bill Lyons 1917 luger came to live with me today and we gave it a fond welcome...

Incredible!!! Your library room looks just like my den!!! :eek:

Our decorators must have studied under the same master... :thumbup:

(Nice Luger, too!) :D

padredan 04-25-2012 09:42 AM

your house must be decorated in early PAWN SHOP then/lol.

Ron Wood 04-25-2012 11:41 AM

Zo, who vass der vinner der Schultz look-alike? I know nossingk.

padredan 04-25-2012 01:18 PM

Ron, wasn't the tall guy in camo/lol. I think we had Schultz ,who i think was played by John Banner http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0037612/ kinda mixed up with artie johnson's german " very interesting " charater from laugh in.

Ron Wood 04-25-2012 02:15 PM

Nah, I knew it wasn't the Artie Johnson character. The "I know nothing" was a Schultz oft-repeated line.

padredan 04-25-2012 02:24 PM

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0037612/ Yes i remember that, this link is about the actor john banner, totaly blown away that he was jewish and had fled the nazi and his entire family had parished in conetration camps during world war two.

cirelaw 04-25-2012 02:27 PM

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Eric found a family portrait!

padredan 04-25-2012 02:31 PM

Now back to the subject of the Erfurt, took a little ride during my lunch time down to one of my shooting spots with a few targets and gongs. Fired a couple of magazine through it, worked flawless. one mag was winchester white box the other federal american eagle, not problems with either. Backed off to about eighty yards and six of the eight hit the gongs. So i am pleased , very pleased . Thanks again mr Bill.

Shadowsix 04-25-2012 03:15 PM

Actually most of the major players in Hogan's Heroes who played Germans were Jewish. Werner Klemperer (Col. Wilhelm Klink), Leon Askin (General Burkhalter), Howard Caine (Maj. Wolfgang Hochstetter) were also Jewish. John Banner happened to be in an actor's tour group in Switzerland when the nazis marched into his native Austria so he did not dare go home but insted moved to the US to make anti-nazi movies during the war (and after). Klemperer escaped his native Germany in '39 just in time to survive. Also of note Robert Clary (Cpl. LeBeau) also was jewish and escaped France just in time to escape being sent to a concentration camp.

True fact both Klemperer & Banner would only sign on to do Hogan's Heroes if their characters were always shown as buffoons!

Back to the Erfurt, beautiful piece & very glad it shot well Padre Dan! I am jealous and look forward to getting a shooter I can take to the range (though still enjoy my collector one very much).

padredan 04-25-2012 03:29 PM

Thanks for sharing that info on hogan's Hero's "who would have thunk it" i must now get the series on dvd, john banner appeared in all 168 shows that aired , did not know he had passe away either. Mr bill Lyons , who had owed the Erfurt, really did not see it as an shooter and it probaly is not , it is a much higher grade than a shooter, and since i did not have an Erfurt, so there you go. Mr bill had owned this pistol for 21 years and said had one of the best bores of any he has owned. Just about to fire up my bmw and go get some more ammo for it, thanks for looking. Padre

cirelaw 04-25-2012 04:02 PM

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My favorite was Combat your before Vic Morrow lost his head decapited by a helicopter in the making of the 'The Trilight Movie'. I always were intigued by the auto weaons on both sides. Vic Morrow, Rick Jason!. Remember toy guns like Johny Seven? In 1964 Johnny Seven came out with 7 weapons including a grenade launch. Imagine walking in a playground armed with this plastic "I KNOW NOTHING"!!!

padredan 04-25-2012 07:51 PM

I went back and fired the Erfurt again this afternoon, worked flawless. Winchester white box and it shoots pretty much to point of aim.

tx_oil 04-25-2012 08:57 PM

Congrats on a beauty!! Very nice Erfurt, indeed.
On the Hogan's Heroes topic, I believe that Robert Clary (Lebeau) was interned in a German camp during WWII.

TheRomanhistorian 04-25-2012 09:44 PM

Nice work there, padredan! :) ...and the Luger's pretty, too. ;)

Shadowsix 04-25-2012 10:47 PM

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On the Hogan's Heroes topic, I believe that Robert Clary (Lebeau) was interned in a German camp during WWII.

You are correct. It had been a long time since I had read the article on him and I didn't remember it exactly, he did get interned in a concentration camp as a child!

Douglas Jr. 04-27-2012 11:56 AM

Nice Luger and great pictures of your welcome party!

padredan 04-27-2012 03:25 PM

Thanks, we do try to have a little fun from time to time, the older you get you seem to be able to find humor if you will look hard enough. Took a little shooting time again today and the more i shoot mr bill Erfurt the more i like it, he said it had one of the best bores of any he has owned and i realy belive it. It is the best shooter of any the lugers i own and has functioned flawless. Mr Bill Lyon is so honest he sent me part of the shipping back on it, which was not necessary. Not many like Mr Bill in this world. To me this will always be Mr Bill's Erfurt.

cirelaw 04-27-2012 03:35 PM

I would love to spend an afternoon with you folks!

padredan 04-27-2012 03:42 PM

The guy, who is named guy/lol. or gun guy. He's in the Glasses is very humorous ,even though he runs a pawn shop here , it is more of a gun shop, with all his gun buds, and lie swapping , I have known him for about 15 years and consider him one of the most knowledgeable on firearms in this area.

padredan 04-27-2012 03:51 PM

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we do not call a plumber to unstop the toilet and believe me it does get stoped up sometimes.

b0xcrash 04-27-2012 04:46 PM

Very nice indeed. I need to find a shooter like that I can shoot myself. Need one I can shot with my son, so he resists the urge to shoot the collector :)

cirelaw 04-27-2012 06:45 PM

you guys should get your own show! 'Luger Wars'!

padredan 04-28-2012 02:32 AM

At this time i wish to inform the luger forum tha Mr bill Lyons has lost one of his daughters, and join you in offering our condolences to the Lyons family. Padre

cirelaw 04-28-2012 09:22 AM

My Heart Felt condolences to Him and His family!

padredan 05-01-2012 05:31 PM

most of us have shared our condolences on here or on the seperate thread for it, let us not forget the Bill and Mary lyons family in there time of mourning and the celebration of the life of their daughter, again may God continue to grant you grace. Padre Dan

padredan 05-01-2012 06:06 PM

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Were the Erfurt's like this 1917 that i got from mr bill all for the military or some for the police or were some comercial?

lugersrkewl 05-01-2012 07:22 PM

the ebook I bought about erfurts strongly suggests that erfurt was for the military only.
hope this helps. It says also that they werent marked commercially and if you find one that is it must have had quite the path to get commercial markings.

Police erfurts ,my guess there are some that got refurbished in the 20's and 30's just a guess though.

padredan 05-01-2012 07:57 PM

Thanks, what i had been told. The Erfurts were made for military use.


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