Interarms P08 4 inch
 

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Glad I got one when I did...

The 06/70 is my favorite of the post war Mausers. My 29/70 shooter is one ugly mug, with its Swiss style grip, next to the graceful 06 style!
I do believe way fewer of these were made, but all the retailers seem to know how to twist the blade after they stick it in. I'm personally crazy enough that I might cave at maybe $1100 for one as new as this.

Steve, did you buy one in the 70' or something? Wishin' I had...

DP

Unfortunately no, I just got the short barrel last year. Had been looking for one for quite awhile so couldn't pass it up. I keep a list of the serial numbers that I observe for these and there aren't that many of the short barrels over here.

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Now that is a stiff price. I don't believe that I would want it that badly, but most likely there is someone out there that does. I have a Mauser Parabellum with the P-8 frame(06/73) and a 6 in bbl that I really enjoy. It took a little "tuning" to get everything running smoothly, but I made it.

The P08 frame version was introduced at the end of 1972, so we describe it as the 06/73 :)

Mauser had problems getting different barrel lenghts to function properly in the beginning, so they tended to focus on the barrel lenghts that did work. The 6" barrels gave less problems.

There are actually 3 frame variations:
Variation 1: 29/70, Swiss style with Swiss opening curve.
Variation 2: 29/70, Swiss style with curve moved slightly to the rear.
Variation 3: 06/73, P08 style with same curve as variation 2.

(the opening curve is the shape of the toggle ramps or 'frame ears').

Here is one that never went to the USA. A 9mm Interarms contract that was made in 1972, proofed in Ulm in 1979 for sale on the European market. It ended up spending its entire life in the box. Curiously, the box also contained Sam Cummings' business card.

Gerben, how 'bout a quick pic series of the frame variations for a sde-by-side comparison? Interesting that there were 2 variants of the 29/70, and now I'm curious as to which mine belongs... Is there a difference in this curve between the 06/29 and the all Swiss Bern?

DP

Yes, there is. The original 29/70 frame was a one-on-one copy of the Swiss 06/29 lay-out. Mauser overlooked the fact that the Swiss had played with the opening curve, tuning it to their standard barrel length and .30 luger army ammunition.

Mauser needed to produce different barrel lengths in different calibers, causing functional problems. They did some comparative tests with Mauser and DWM p08 pistols, and found that the Swiss had altered the curve which caused the toggle to break at a different moment.

They discovered this when the first 1000 or so frames were already being produced. The decision was made to reserve those frames for the .30 luger version and to mark the remainder with a heart shaped symbol just below the safety lever, so that they would not be used in other variations.

The top comparison was used to identify the differences between a pre-series Mauser Parabellum (bottom) and a 29/70 - 06/73 transitional pistol. So the other differences can be disregarded. The difference marked with the arrow is the one we are discussing here.

Gerben,interesting info, thanks for posting.

Thanks for the information. I just keep learning more and more about the different variations of the post war Mauser. Now, if I can just remember it!!

So how much is this gun worth at a fair price! I have one just like Simpson's, a mint, unfired and new P-08 in the box with everything as pictured, except mine is missing the owner's manual and test target, but it is new and perfect and dated 73 on the antler proof. So how much is a fair price? I already have the gun. I paid $1200 (so far!) from non-Luger friends, but promised to research and add $ if needed to the price, now I saw this post and the Simpon gun so what is a fair price for myself and my friends?

Hi, do you have an Interarms version or a European version? The interarms versions normally don't have Ulm/antler proofs (just the FBM), but there is a small batch of pistols that were ordered by Interarms at a later date. Mauser modified European pistols for this contract.

I think $1200 is a more than fair price for the set you describe. Manuals are not hard to find, a pity about the test target, though.

I don't know how to tell Euro from American? It does have a big Interarms logo on the right side of the barrel extension. I can post pictures if needed.

Hi, it's quite simple:

Euro pistols have no Interarms marking on the right side of the receiver.
US export versions have the FBM proof.

Vlim, Is mine a 06/29?? 10.002098??? yes right?

I don't know where these people get these prices... 1,900. I think that is high. But what do I know. 1,100?? 1,200?

Especially in this economy; it does not work just because you "think" or "feel" it should be worth more or some schmuck on ebay paid x amount, or because you have more than its value in it, then you sell it for more and accept no less.
Everything and everyone is doing this and its starting to seriously upset me that people are ok ripping off one another.

It's a 29/70. The 1970 style, modelled after the 1929 Swiss style.

Over the years I have owned two of these 06/73 pieces with the P08 frame. I even acquired a set of partially finished Mauser repro Cartridge Counter grips with the thought of making a display mock up of a CC. Never got around to it and passed the Lugers on to other collectors. Just couldn't bring myself to keeping modern replicas. Probably short-sighted on my part but I am sure the new owners are much happier than I would be. I still have the repro grips (lack the plastic/eisenglas inserts with the index numbers). Anyone interested in them? I can post photos and place them in the "for sale" section if there is serious interest. Cost will be less than $100.

There was one on GB that sold for $2100. 06/73 4 inch 9mm. It was unusual in the fact that it was dated and had the FBM proof. Something else to consider is that the numbers of the 06/73 P08 4 inch are very low. At least that is what I am finding with the data that I have collected.

I just sold one with P-08 frame, NIB, but no target, with the antler proof and dated 1973 for $1400. I would have liked to get $2000! I tried $1800 but no takers. Got a hit at $1400 level.

2,000, my God, I could not imagine it being worth that. To think I paid 750 for a mint one in the box in 1994 for 750.00, and it had everything. 9mm 4 inch. I just got my .30 Mauser Parabellum back after not having it for 23 years. I lost it in pawn in 1989/90 it had to be 90 for I have a picture of it dated 1990, but I swear it was 89. AND on May 4th I stumbled on the exact same gun on Florida Gun traders, for I remembered the serial number, I had the box until 2004. AND it is still unfired. This is it pictured in the box, and the other is how it looks now

outstanding , still looks new

Hello everyone, I am new to the Luger Forum and am not too familiar with them. However recently, an American Eagle 9mm P-08 (06/73) stainless steel Luger serial number S34XX became available to me to buy. I am looking for some more information regarding this weapon. Specifically a price or price range.

I have been reading some of the other posts and have seen a lot of numbers flying around. Anybody who can assist me with some prices would be greatly appreciated. I apologize if this is a repeated question but it seems the price may range greatly from weapon to weapon.

welcome to the forum, alot can depend on condition, if you can get pictures it will help alot. I owned one years ago , they can be rather finicky, goodluck

Welcome to the forum,

I think what you are looking at is a Stoeger reproduction made sometime in the early to mid 90's.Those pistols do not have any relation to the 70's Mauser production. I do know that there were problems with these early on. Do a search here for Stoeger and you'll get the information you are looking for.

That said, some people like 'em, some don't. I don't have any experience so I can't say.

I think the biggest single item that dictates real value of the item as pertains to Mauser Parabellums is the box it came in and the accessories that are with it!

My first Parabellum is a 9mm with the box,test target, manuel and tool. I paid slightly over a grand, which I thought was high at the time, but now I am thinking I got a pretty good deal.

My second Parabellum was a 7.65mm and it came with one(1) magazine. This gun is a real cherry, nice from the word "go" and shoots really well. It also is one of the very early Parabellums without the radius on the reciever. Paid slightly over seven hundred and thought I got the "buy of a lifetime".

Both of the above pistols have the ever popular 6" barrel and the good old Swiss grips.

I think the real issue of what a gun is worth is really determined by WHEN you buy it. The 7.65 was purchased during December when folks are trying to scrape together money for Christmas and because of this, I think I got a really good deal.

There is another important factor: What the intended use of the gun is. I purchased both of these pistols for the soul purpose of shooting them. I don't believe in "safe queens" and will not own a gun I cannot shoot.............................

Mauser Interarms Luger American Eagle Value?
 

I have a 1970s Mauser Interarms Luger American Eagle and I would like to know the value. I have no box and no barrel scraping tool. I do have(2) an extra mauser marked magazine as well as the magazine tool . There is a chip on the right side of the wood grips. It has seen less then 300 rounds of use. I am the second owner.

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Thanks for the help and information.

My guesstimate is $600-900, maybe a tad more; depending on venue and/or salesmanship. Collectors have traditionally been less interested in these post war models, but thanks to some they are coming into their own as collectibles, not too far behind original Lugers in value. Gerben, a member here (vlim) is co-author of a book about these variations.

Yours is in pretty nice shape, too bad about that grip. Check with Hugh Clark, yet another member (hugh) who is highly skilled in the arena of Luger grips; he may have a better spare available. Nice, clean looking pistol, congrats.

D.P.

I agree with the assessement above. It's a relatively common variation, but without the original accessories it will bring quite a bit less than a completely boxed pistol with all accessories.

Interarms/ Mauser Lugers
 

I came on an Interarms imported Mauser Luger at a gun show. It seemed to be in very good condition and at a reasonable price.
My questions to you experienced people-- Are these types of Lugers generally good shooters?
Are there any particular problems with them?
Are replacement parts interchangeable with other Lugers?
I am told that these pistols were made in the 1970s True?
Any other information that you could share would be welcome.

Thanks for your help,
Marine 3

I consider my Interarms Luger a good shooter, and it goes to the range often. I have not experienced any real problems with mine, but I did clean up and polish the feed ramps before taking it to the range.

I do not know exactly how many of the "new" Luger parts will interchange with the original ones, but for sure the grips will not. The mags will, and also the mag catch/release.

These lugers were made in the late 60s and 70s.

The most sought after Interarms Lugers are the ones with the P08 grip frame( 06/73 Model). There are less of these available than the Swiss grip frame( no bump on the bottom of the front grip frame).

Both 4 and 6in barrels are available....also 9mm, and 30 Luger calibers.

The ones with all of the original equipment(box, target, 2 mags, loading and cleaning tools) are worth more than with out these items.

I hope that this info helps you out.

rhuff,
Thanks for the good information.
Marine 3

Mauser/Interarms Lugers
 

Thanks for the additional information. In this situation as in several others I become interested in a certain type of gun when everyone else has been for about a year! By then the prices have gone up and I am usually too late to do any good!
I will keep my eyes open and maybe get a bargain.
Marine 3

I searched very hard(nearly daily) for my 06/73 Mauser, and it took nearly 9 months to find the one that I wanted. I have had ZERO buyer's remorse, and have seriously considered purchasing another. Just keep your eyes open and hopefully one will slide by.

Any interent price on any LUger is ridiculously inflated, can someone explain to me why? Especially the place this gentleman bought this Parabellum from.

In addition to the 4 & 6 inch barrels there is a 5 inch.
I have two examples on the Swiss style frame with 5 inch pencil barrels.
(120 mm, 4.5 inch? Don't have them to hand.)

One of the biggest mistakes I've made was letting an 06/73 30 cal with a 4.75-5 inch barrel get away from me. I had the money with me but continued walking the aisles at the gunshow and didn't go back.