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Vlim 02-04-2012 11:27 AM

German army dresscode - revisited
 
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This photo of some stylishly dressed Germans, two of them showing their P08 pistols, is one I acquired recently.

It neatly fits into a series of photos showing that wearing uniforms was not a daily habit in those days :)

wlyon 02-04-2012 12:01 PM

Vlim
Neat pictures. Thanks for sharing. Bill

CavScoutEurope 02-04-2012 12:20 PM

off duty photos. a little off topic but not too far.
 
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I think that they are "off duty" in these photos. Us American soldiers would do the same thing in, well any war really. I remember when I was young and dumb in Iraq me and boys would be standing around our trucks and just taking macho photos in and out of uniform. I also Have some photos that I captured from some Iraqi soldiers that I will post on here.

Vlim 02-04-2012 12:36 PM

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Hi,

The top photos were actually taken during the 1930s. After Hitler came to power the compulsory military service was reintroduced. Part of the 'tradition' was to take some entertaining photos to show the homefront that the army was all harmless fun (until they invaded Poland, anyway). So part propaganda, part reassurance of the spouse.

I also have some photos of my military service days on which we pose in a less than professional manner :)

As you can see I had mastered the use of the Uzi completely. Damn, we were young back then :cheers:

CavScoutEurope 02-04-2012 01:06 PM

wow! I wish I had been issued an Uzi!!! It would have worked a lot better in the slums of Baghdad than my M-16A2!!

Vlim 02-04-2012 05:00 PM

We were issued the Uzi because of our work as radio/telex operatiors / drivers. So they issued something more compact. These were built under licence by FN in Liege.

MikeP 02-05-2012 02:42 PM

All GIs do things like this.
Modern guys have made some decent Youtube vids in this vein.

MPGunther 02-05-2012 03:30 PM

GREAT pics guys

the gunman 02-07-2012 05:53 PM

Nice shots Vlim love those uzi's

sheepherder 02-07-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 206950)
We were issued the Uzi because of our work as radio/telex operatiors / drivers. So they issued something more compact. These were built under licence by FN in Liege.

Gerben -

Since it's your thread, and you brought it up, (and since off-topic posts are my trademark :D ), are the "German" Uzi parts kits being sold by Numrich & Sarco made by FN???

I built up a semi-auto Uzi using a sarco 'kit'; it came with a new unused "German" grip assembly, with the marking D - E- S for the selector switch...

Does this look like an FN grip???

nukem556 02-07-2012 11:01 PM

odd....looks like bakelite on the grips....I've only seen black plastic/nylon before . I've got a full-auto Vector Uzi made from a new condition South African kit.....grips are very smooth plastic.

alanint 02-07-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 207089)
Gerben -

Since it's your thread, and you brought it up, (and since off-topic posts are my trademark :D ), are the "German" Uzi parts kits being sold by Numrich & Sarco made by FN???

I built up a semi-auto Uzi using a sarco 'kit'; it came with a new unused "German" grip assembly, with the marking D - E- S for the selector switch...

Does this look like an FN grip???

Later kits may be FN, but my recollection is that the German's agreed to purchase IMI Israeli made UZI's as "war reparations" during the first production runs shortly after the war.

Vlim 02-08-2012 07:04 AM

Several batches of Dutch FN Uzi's were sold to German dealers, so nothing is impossible. I'm not sure whether the Dutch army still has them in stock. I'll ask around over here :)

sheepherder 02-08-2012 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by alanint (Post 207103)
Later kits may be FN, but my recollection is that the German's agreed to purchase IMI Israeli made UZI's as "war reparations" during the first production runs shortly after the war.

Several vendors offer either the D - E - S grip assemblies or [used] IMI [Hebrew letters] assemblies...I have a spare which is also D - E - S and unused...Some parts look brand new/unused (barrel, bolt); others show signs of wear (top cover)...

Both of mine have the mottled left grip and a shiny black right grip...

BTW: The IMI parts are *very* used...(They include a sawed-up receiver with the 'kits')...

That pic with the soldier holding the Uzi to his head - Is that you, Gerben??? :D

Vlim 02-08-2012 02:30 PM

I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't proof anything :D

sheepherder 02-08-2012 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 207132)
I didn't do it. Nobody saw me do it. You can't proof anything :D

... :evilgrin: ...

Question: If that is indeed your old Dutch unit, why are all the beret insignias different??? :confused:

Vlim 02-08-2012 07:20 PM

Good eye!

These were taken at the driving school. We first got 2 months of basic military training and had to get our truck driving license within these 2 months. Then we went on to other training facilities or to our detachments. I spent a further 3 months training as a telex / radio operator before going to my final unit. My other 'toy' was a similar truck with a radio shelter which consisted of an AM radio transmitter, a diesel aggregate, a radio cabin with AM/FM radio's and a telex machine, and some other goodies.

sheepherder 02-08-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlim (Post 207145)
Good eye!

These were taken at the driving school. We first got 2 months of basic military training and had to get our truck driving license within these 2 months...

That is very familiar...I went through 10 weeks of Basic Training and an additional four weeks of Infantry Training before being assigned to Schools Battalion for another 10 weeks training as a truck mechanic...but to work on them, you had to be licensed...so the first week was spent getting our gov't drivers licenses on "deuce & a half's" and M151 "Jeeps"...It was amazing what a 10-wheel-drive truck could do... :eek: :thumbup: :D

RAY1946 02-11-2012 10:52 AM

I had an opportunity to shoot an Uzi at the October 04' machine-gun shoot at Knob Creek in Kentucky. That gun is a real hoot to shoot. Real easy to control on full-auto.

I tried to shoot 3 or 4 rnd bursts and it stayed on target extremely well. I was shooting at a 5-gallon paint pail at about 40 yds. I was truley amazed at the lack of climb when rolling along on full-auto. I think this has to be attributed to the unique design of the stock and overall balance of the gun. Its a really fun gun...........................

Vlim 02-11-2012 12:08 PM

We only got to shoot them full auto using blanks, and a specially designed blank firing adapter which was placed over the muzzle. It restricted the gas escape so that the uzi would cycle using 9x19 training blanks. They were actually pretty accurate at 100 yards, single shot, with the stock fully extracted (folded backwards).

ithacaartist 02-13-2012 02:30 PM

I remember that the ROTC Rangers used blank adapters during their nocturnal romps in the woods, so they could fire their M1's semi-auto. The drawback was that the apparatus kept all the wads in the system and had to be emptied /cleaned out of this debris frequently.

pitsword 02-13-2012 07:52 PM

I thought all M-1s were semi auto from the get go. The blank wad could put a hurting on anything within 3 feet.

Please pardon my slow brain and quick fingers. You are so correct. Blanks were single shot w/o the adapter to capture some extra gas.

alanint 02-13-2012 08:24 PM

Its really not too bad, though. The only blanks that have "wads" are the M1909 Goverment issue blanks, (paper plug with red sealant). The bulk of this is burned up by the time it reaches the muzzle. Removing and blowing out the BFA after a couple of hundred shots is enough to keep the gun running. I've fired literally thousand of blanks in M1s and this routine cleaning is really all that is needed. What does occur is that as carbon builds up on the BFA, you will get more violent recoil and over time, damaged op rods. Most of today's blanks are crimped and have not plugs at all.

SIGP2101 02-15-2012 03:39 PM

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Vlim 02-19-2012 03:22 PM

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So I guess this is where they were holding his daddy at gun point? :evilgrin:


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