Unusual find
 

Hi Guys,
I was visiting a friend this morning at his welding shop. He told me that he thought that I was interested in "German stuff". Naturally my answer was "what you got?" He walked out with a brass drum drain. Here are a couple of pictures. I asked him if he wanted to sell it. He said find out what it is worth. Any thoughts?

Mike

I Think If Anything It Reduses Its Value
 

Antique can bring more valuable especially antique fixtures. A Nazi emble in one bathroom maybe worked in nazi Germany. Its like a 'KKK' on you bathtub. Bury in in someone elses backyard! Its nasty and I'm German! Eric/cirelaw

I didn't plan on actually using it. Just thought it was interesting. Besides, it doesn't go on a bathtub; it is drain for a 55 gallon drum.

Mike

Sorry Mike Its symbol still has an affect to many. ps My plumbing skills stink especially since my stroke! I'm sorry!I'm the worse offender!

The swastika is also an American Indian symbol as well as that of Finland and a host of early Slavic and other antiquity cultures. The symbol on the faucet almost certainly has nothing whatsoever to do with a Nazi connection.

I'd say it was stamped on much later than when it was made?

Just my feeling?


Ed

Ron I never had never given that a thought. I know the Nazi's had a huge ego but stamping bathroom fixtures. You are all right!

Crudely Hand engraved actually. I think this is a folk remedy to protect the quality of whatever came out of the spigot. This is not Nazi.

What about 'Josephine The Plumber'? Remember Her?

Just after the turn of the century this was a good luck symbol. The NSDAP made it extremely unpopular in the subsequent decades. Before the Nazi regieme though there was no negative connotation whatever.

I understand it was also a symbol back to pagan times!

You are Right!
 

The symbol amoung other predated christianity.

If you go to the Air and Space museum in DC they have the original nose cone that went over the propeller of the Spirit of Saint Lewis. On the inside there is a swastika. The little card describing it says that it is a Native American good luck charm.

Are You Referring To The Original Hagning From The Ceiling
 

Where exactly is it visible?

Around the turn of the century, people here in the US would have Sunday picnics in graveyards...It was considered a happy place, where kids would laugh & play, and elders would sit back and ruminate...Eat a picnic lunch, play with the dog, toss a ball around, roll hoops...

Wonder why that tradition didn't continue... :confused:

Graveyards around here are in better condition than public parks...

Still done in Mexico every "Day of the Dead" (Halloween).

But then again, attending public hangings was a family event back then as well!

So was castration with a rusty butter knife!!

And Nepalese as well...

SteveM

There is a building right behind city hall in Philadelphia I believe it is a jewelers shop that even to this day still sports an interlocked swastika motif on its store front.

W

Swastika on St. Lewis
 

It is on the second floor of the museum near the aircraft. It was replaced right before the St. Lewis's famous flight. It is in the inside of the cone.

Found this while surfing the web. An interesting article:
Hindu Swastika Confused With Nazi Swastika By markulyseas on
April 18, 2011
http://my.telegraph.co.uk/markulysea...nazi-swastika/


According to the Nordicist version of the Aryan Invasion Theory, the Nazis claimed that the early Aryans of India, from whose Vedic tradition the Swastika sprang, were the archetypal white invaders. The concept of racial purity was an ideology central to Nazism. Thus the Nazis saw fit to co-opt the Swastika as a symbol of the Aryan Master race.

I recall an interesting article about American western saddles from around the turn of the century that displayed swastikas. Really don't think that would fly today!
Best regards, Don

More confusion about red dot v. tomahawk?
 

Wikipedia is generally a good statring place for research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
I've heard the reference to Native Americans before. I don't believe it is accurate, unless connected by migration of Asian people across the Pacific, estimated to have taken place around 20,000 years ago--neolithic period.
Follow a link or two within the main article to find out more about use of the swastica in the early 20th century, in different countries and cultures...
Definitely a symbol "ruined" by its Nazi use. Too bad, because it's simple, symmetrical, and high contrast; it really "grabs the eye" as a graphic.
David Parker

Another example

For MikeP, that is beautiful! What a great example!!

David