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cirelaw 09-10-2011 02:22 PM

Luger Or Walther??
 
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You decide if your life depended on it? And why??

alanint 09-10-2011 02:36 PM

Without a shadow of a doubt, the P38. I've never had any of mine jam, while the lugers have been only partially reliable, even with the proper ammo.

cirelaw 09-10-2011 02:43 PM

Which would you consider more accurate? I guess barrel length would probobly controlling! TKS

alanint 09-10-2011 02:45 PM

I think they are both a wash. The P38 has better sights and the Luger is more inherently accurate. I can hit targets about equaly with both.

cirelaw 09-10-2011 02:58 PM

Have You ever fired an artillery or carbine. I regret to admit I'm a virgin!! "lugering" that is!!

cirelaw 09-10-2011 03:02 PM

was there any differences according to manufacturer?

alanint 09-10-2011 06:08 PM

I've fired an Artillery but never a Carbine. The initial question still remains which gun I would bet my life on? The P38, hands down, for reliability, dependability, ease of loading, safety of carry, an external hammer, decocker/safety, etc.

cirelaw 09-10-2011 06:29 PM

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I must agree with you. I checked with Chalie Kenyan and there are '42' seperate and distinct pieces. Too much can go wrong. Especially in the field. The togle is a truly vulnerable linkage. My Kreighoff is a work of perfection as are many of the upper end models. It appears more customs luger produced by Krieghoff than any other. Looking at a Browning for instance. It is clearly better proteced from the elements as are the revolvers. Why is it our FACINATION!!! Because they are timeless works of art. Way Cooool! Copied but never surpassed. One day I will fire my first luger But it will be someone elses!!

pitsword 09-10-2011 07:48 PM

Erick,
God bless you sir. Is it Oxycodon, or what? I use hyrdocodon.
Makes me sleep better, although my brain "fails safe and drains to the bilge". Pray for your health Mon Ami.

cirelaw 09-10-2011 07:58 PM

Demertal 4xday, Unfortunaly over rated, excedrin aleve naprocin. and good old ace bandages! follow. I'm trying to avoid oxycotin!, At least I'm walking without a walker or cane. God has been leniant!

cirelaw 09-10-2011 08:16 PM

Ill suggest it! tks

Sieger 09-11-2011 02:13 AM

Hi:

Once I got the correct springs for it, and learned how to handload for it, my P-08 byf 41 has fired almost 3,000 rounds without a single jam. My Luger is accurate!!!

My byf 43 P-38 has never been an accurate pistol. It cracked its frame, some time ago, with slightly warm ammo.

Let the experts speak for themselves. There was a joke in the Bundeswehr regarding their P-1 (P-38) that went like this..."8 warning shots and one well aimed throw".

For killing at close range, please give me a .45 1911.

Sieger

spartacus38 09-11-2011 03:03 AM

Luger is more accurate and single action
P-38 double action.
Bob

FNorm 09-11-2011 08:52 AM

I'd feel safer carrying a round in the chamber with the P-38. If I ever had to use it it would be two shots at 10 ft. Extreme accuracy is moot.

FN

Olle 09-11-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FNorm (Post 200715)
I'd feel safer carrying a round in the chamber with the P-38. If I ever had to use it it would be two shots at 10 ft. Extreme accuracy is moot.

FN

+1. At the distances you would typically shoot, a quick shot is more important than a super accurate shot. In a self defence situation you won't be able to use the accuracy at it's full potential anyway. If you want to, the P.38 can be carried with the hammer down on a loaded chamber, ready to go without fumbling with the safety. My bedroom gun is a Beretta 92FS, a direct descendant of the P.38. :cool:

WG dog 09-11-2011 11:12 AM

Someone said a P-38 is like lightning, it never strikes the same spot twice. ;)

But I'd probably take the P-38.

Kitkat041836 09-11-2011 01:33 PM

I think there is more recoil on the p-38 that the Luger.If you
like less recoil I would go with the Luger you can get it back on target faster.
Thanks George

hgreer2 09-11-2011 01:54 PM

If I choose my Artillery, can I use my snail drum ?

Harry

cirelaw 09-11-2011 01:59 PM

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Did they ever produce a P38 using a longer barrel? I'll have to did out my Buxtons. They is produce a silencer. Buxton page 217

cirelaw 09-11-2011 02:28 PM

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The only other variation I could find! They see a lot more rugged but I still like Lugers above all!After further reading both short and long barrels were produced with the different manufacture.

FNorm 09-11-2011 04:14 PM

Actually for home/self defense, I prefer my Mossberg 590 12 ga.

There is no such thing as a 'fair' gun fight.

FN

Ron Wood 09-11-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by hgreer2 (Post 200735)
If I choose my Artillery, can I use my snail drum ?

Harry

Sure, and I can't wait to see your concealed carry rig!:thumbup:

hgreer2 09-11-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 200748)
Sure, and I can't wait to see your concealed carry rig!:thumbup:

I sincerely hope you can make it to Tulsa, I have some interesting things to show you for your assessment, and viewing pleasure.

your friend,
Harry

Michael Zeleny 09-11-2011 09:53 PM

The W+F P06/29 shown at the bottom of the photo is the most accurate gun I have, and totally reliable. The one shown on top remains unfired. I have no problem with carrying a 1906 pattern Luger with a round in the chamber.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....pictureid=1729

As Bill Jordan put it, “Speed is fine but accuracy is final.” So I would take the W+F P06/29 over the P38, being that the latter is neither accurate nor reliable. But for all-purpose social work, I prefer the SIG P210 and the Manurhin MR73 to any other handgun.

hgreer2 09-11-2011 11:28 PM

Wild Bill Hickok made a living on being accurate not being the fastest.

Harry

SlayerK98 10-29-2011 04:09 PM

Have to go with the P-38. It is accurate enough at 10-15 yards, and I've never had a jam out of my matching byf 44. Simple/quick to disassemble, and it fits well in my hand. I like my Luger well enough, but in general prefer the P-38 for everyday plinking.

-Eric

cirelaw 10-29-2011 05:24 PM

Being shot by either will ruin your day!

snipershot1944 10-29-2011 06:32 PM

I vote 45, allthough that was not one of the options.

wayne8661 10-29-2011 09:49 PM

One well placed shot from either pistol will have the same effect. But I think the double action on the p.38 would make the difference for me. (Although I would look cooler pulling out a luger opposed to a p.38)

W

cirelaw 10-29-2011 09:55 PM

Would the fact that they can and did fire the same ammo affect your decision?

wayne8661 10-29-2011 10:06 PM

Well I would choose a 45 if I hd my choice. But If it was a luger or a p.38 I think the luger would be a more difficult weapon to perform remedial action on in the event of a jam. 9mm wouldnt be my first choice but a well placed round will stop someone as quick as anything/

Lugerdoc 11-01-2011 08:30 AM

Sieger, Your description of the P1 actually goes back to at least WW2, as this was exactly the same description a Luftwaffe vet once gave me of his issued FN22. TH

suum cuique 11-01-2011 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint (Post 200676)
Without a shadow of a doubt, the P38. I've never had any of mine jam, while the lugers have been only partially reliable, even with the proper ammo.

I totally agree with Alanint. I would choose my P 38.

Wilhelm 11-04-2011 12:44 AM

Neither. HK

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