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reinhard 02-02-2011 09:01 PM

American eagle luger
 
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Hi ,I am a new member on the forum ,I asked this question on another forum,but somebody suggested to join the luger forum,so I did
I only have two lugers ,one family heirloom 1937 mauser luger with matching mags and holster,the other one is an American eagle in 9mm that I purchased today, I want to know what type of luger it is ,thanks

alanint 02-02-2011 09:20 PM

Welcome to the forum!

Both guns are outstanding!

reinhard 02-02-2011 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint (Post 189643)
Welcome to the forum!

Both guns are outstanding!

thank you for the kind words,and the welcome

DavidJayUden 02-02-2011 10:30 PM

1906 American Eagle exported to the US. Pretty rare in 9mm. Very nice.
Welcome.
dju

MFC 02-03-2011 12:02 AM

Hi Reinhard,
Beautiful 06 American Eagle. The front sight is a period replacement manufactued by Marbles with a brass top. It is much easier to see than the standard front sight. Is the wood bottom mag blank or is it stamped 'Cal. 9mm' ? Either one would be correct.

reinhard 02-03-2011 11:12 AM

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thank you for the info,the wooden botom has germany on it,

Edward Tinker 02-03-2011 11:38 AM

Wow, very nice 1906 AE

Ought to be in my collection :)


ed

Hugo Borchardt 02-03-2011 11:58 AM

Very nice!!!!

reinhard 02-03-2011 03:14 PM

thanks ,I am pretty much a newbie on the luger pistols,I am sure I will learn a lott on this forum :thumbup:

MFC 02-03-2011 03:40 PM

The Germany export stamped mag is commercial, also correct and worth more than a blank bottom.

reinhard 02-03-2011 04:22 PM

does anyone have a picture from a DWM mark on an 1906
I want to know for sure that all markings are correct,somebody told me that the DWM mark is too shallow,I noticed that on some lugers the DWM marking is fatter ,is this normal,I want to be sure that I don't have a faked luger here,

spartacus38 02-03-2011 05:16 PM

Beautiful pair of guns.
Bob

Ron Wood 02-03-2011 05:26 PM

Reinhard,
The DWM marking varies considerably. Some were struck quite lightly and people will frequently try to claim that they are too shallow and the gun was refinished. This is rarely true. It is much better to look at the rest of the gun to determine if it has been refinished. The DWM mark on your gun is not too shallow, so do not be concerned.

reinhard 02-03-2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 189716)
Reinhard,
The DWM marking varies considerably. Some were struck quite lightly and people will frequently try to claim that they are too shallow and the gun was refinished. This is rarely true. It is much better to look at the rest of the gun to determine if it has been refinished. The DWM mark on your gun is not too shallow, so do not be concerned.

thank you Ron ,I found a crowned eagle stamp on the breechlock,I did not see that before ,what does that mean?

Ron Wood 02-04-2011 02:20 AM

It is a DWM acceptance stamp found primarily on military Lugers. Does the serial number of the breechblock match the remainder of the gun? If it does, there is the possiblility that this was a left over breechblock from the military test series production.
Coincidently, my 1906 American Eagle 9mm is less than 40 numbers away from yours (#28866). My breechblock does not have the Crown/Eagle marking. To have two guns so close together, one in the USA and one in Belgium is remarkable!

Edward Tinker 02-04-2011 02:35 AM

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This is a good friends of mine, we have kinda made a deal and once I am settled in, will complete the deal. But I am sure he would not mind me showing his/my new 9mm 1906...

SN is 25500


Ed

Hugo Borchardt 02-04-2011 09:03 AM

Ed:

Nice Gun, nice Cal9MM mag, nice holster!

C

abukafura 02-04-2011 10:09 AM

Ed: I really like this gun. Wish it were mine.

reinhard 02-04-2011 05:45 PM

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Ron ,that's indeed very close to mine, the world is a small place :),here is a pic of the proofmark

Ron Wood 02-04-2011 08:42 PM

Reinhard,
Thank you for the photo. I could see it quite clearly when I enlarged the second photo in your initial post. It is as I stated, a DWM acceptance mark usually found on military pieces.

Edward Tinker 02-05-2011 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by abukafura (Post 189745)
Ed: I really like this gun. Wish it were mine.

Well, since I know it came out of a nice collection in Wisonsin, and on the same street as you live, I can point you or others to some more really nice pieces that are for sale :)


Ed

reinhard 02-05-2011 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 189764)
Reinhard,
Thank you for the photo. I could see it quite clearly when I enlarged the second photo in your initial post. It is as I stated, a DWM acceptance mark usually found on military pieces.

thanks Ron ,the serial on the extractor is different ,so I will make it a shooter instead of a collectors gun,thanks again

Ron Wood 02-05-2011 06:06 PM

Mighty expensive shooter! Other than the mismatched extractor and the non-original front sight (which is found quite frequently on these early guns), your gun is in excellent condition. The 9mm 1906 production is relatively small making these guns a prize for Luger collectors. Even in its less than original condition I would guess its value is in the neighborhood of $2500 plus or minus.

Edward Tinker 02-05-2011 10:56 PM

Yes, can get you a shooter for $700 and trade you with a couple of hudnred bucks thrown in...

Dwight Gruber 02-06-2011 01:35 PM

The breechblock is an Imperial proof mark, applied to military guns upon passing the power-proof test. Its presence suggests the breechblock may not be original to this gun.

--Dwight

reinhard 02-06-2011 03:10 PM

the previous owner of the gun was more than happy to take the gun back,Ron I can understand your point of view,but original parts is a must for me ,

real nice and knowedlgeable members on this forum, I know the place to be for asking questions in the future
I think you will like this
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reinhard 02-06-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 189845)
Yes, can get you a shooter for $700 and trade you with a couple of hudnred bucks thrown in...

you can find a 600€ WW2 shooter here,making it a shooter was more of a joke ,I gave it back, I am just not that happy with "I got an A.E 1906 commercial but the extractor is not original"
take care Ed

Ron Wood 02-06-2011 04:06 PM

Reinhard,
I understand your reason for returning the gun and I am glad the seller was willing to take it back. But, now you need to find another one!:)

reinhard 02-06-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 189879)
Reinhard,
I understand your reason for returning the gun and I am glad the seller was willing to take it back. But, now you need to find another one!:)

you can be sure of that Ron,
thanks and take care


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