lapua ammo
 

Hello everyone,

I am new to lugers and I would like to know who has uses Lapua 123 grains ammo in a p08. It has a velocity of 320 m/s. I have read that no ammunition should be used in a p08 with a higher velocitythan 320 m/s.

Leen

Hi,

S&B 124gr and Winchester 115gr work well.

The velocity is not the main issue: overal average length, a slow burning powder, not too exotic bullet shapes and you should be good to go.

Here's an overview of velocity tests that Mauser did in the early seventies:

Thank you for the information

Do you know what kind of ammo the Germans used?

And do I need to look for an round that produces the lowest amount of pressureon the action?

I`ll post some pictures of my byf41 soon

The ammo the Germans used during WW2 is the last type you want to use. It's crap in more ways than one.

Stick to S&B or Winchester and you'll be fine :)

Leen,

I don't know about their 9mm, but their 7.65mm shoots wonderful!

Mike:thumbup:

Thank you

Do you have any experience with magtech or geco?

Leen,

I like the 124gr. GEACO ( RWS ) in my P08's

Mike

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/b...5&b=GECO&stk=1

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/b...95&b=RWS&stk=1

Dear Mike,

How did you found out what ammunition to shoot in your p08 and what ammo you shoukd not ? Lot`s of people tell me that shooting factory loads in a po8 will break it. And that a velocity hogher then 320 meters per second is not good.

Could you please help me out?

Leen,

This is a common myth based on unfamiliarity with the design and use. Do a search on the forum and you will see that the advice given here is correct: Stick to S&B and/or Winchester and you'll be fine. GeCo and Lapua will not harm the pistol, but GeCo is a bid mild and will not always trigger the hold-open after the last shot.

If you are afraid to shoot your pistol, then don't.

Leen,

Trial and error, personal preference, etc... Whatever works for you and you can afford!

Mike:rockon:

I found out by blindly following the orders of others.... :bowdown:

:rockon:

(j/k, of course)

Steve, you're not convincing him this way, I think, lol :D

LOL! Ya, if figgered that if he wasn't convinced by now he never would be so I was just having fun. :D

I'm a slave to my sense of humor. It gets me into more trouble.... :p

Steve :D

Leen: the invitation to come to our range still stands. You will be able to meet a couple of luger 'survivors' there :)

Vlim -

AH!!! "geschosz gewichte" = projectile weights!!!

Here's a helpful site - http://www.archive.org/stream/milita...mrich_djvu.txt - Military vocabulary : German-English and English-German

But back to geschosz-gewichte - is that in ounces??? What unit of weight is that??? Grams???

yes, bullet weight :)

It is the weight in grams: 8.0 Grams is approx. 124gr.

Leen,
I regularly shoot 95gr Magtech ammo in my Lugers. This is a very hot ammo with respect to energy and very very fast but due to the low bullet weight the momentum is very soft. The momentum is so soft that this ammo just exceeds the minimum momentum required in competitions in Germany. The characteristics of this ammo comes near the 7.65 Para. The accuracy of that ammo is brilliant but not every clip works with it properly. So ist is required to find an appropriate clip but the effort will pay off.
Armin

Very good! Could you correct these approximate translations? -

Vollmantel = full jacketed (?)
Panzerbrechend = armor breaking (piercing?)
Holspitzgeschoss = hollow point projectile (?)

(I know they're not correct; but the best I could do) :p

OK, I've attempted to convert Vlim's Mauser list to Yankee units...I had trouble with the 5's & 6's = i can't tell which one Mauser wrote, so I 'assumed' they were 6's... :rolleyes:

(My apologies to all Metric & Deutsch reading peoples) :p

Nice work :)

We'll have you speaking German in no time :)

Dear Vlim,

Thank you,

I will visit your shooting club soon. It is not that I do not believe your information, but other people make me verry afraid to dameage my precious p08.

I will order the replacement parts that you adviced me. Should I replace the springs to? And are wolff springs good to go.

Thanks everybothy for the information !!!!!!

I have fired a couple of magtech 124 grain round trough my p08 yesturday,and it fuctions without malfunctions. I have used the origional ww2 mag.

Now I will replace the extractor before I will fire it again.

What parts should I replace also?

Leen

Leen,

Welcome to the Forum, and congratulations on your Luger.

While it's a good idea to replace springs, be aware that there were different recoil springs (gauged by the number of turns of the spring) for Lugers of different generations. Generally there are fewer turns in the WW-I era pistols.

Since your gun is working fine with the loads you've selected, you may not need to immediately replace springs .

I have Wolff springs for my Luger and have had good experience with them.

Marc

Dear Marc,

Thanks foryour reply. Did you order the normal wolff spring or the extra strong one ? and what kind of ammunition do you use?

I have an byf41 all matching, does you p08 also have an verry strong trigger pull?

Leen

You should have a 21 or 22 turn recoil spring. I believe that this is the "default" spring that they ship in the Wolff Luger spring kit. It's the correct one for a late Mauser Luger like yours. This is the spring that they include with the complete Luger spring kit (along with the extractor spring and the trigger spring).

They also have a 3 recoil spring kit with springs cut to different lengths.
There is a fairly heavy trigger pull on my Luger, especially when compared with other pistols in Single Action firing.

I have been using my own reloads. 4.0gn of TiteGroup powder behind a 129gn cast lead bullet. This is a slightly reduced load. Other than that, it's Winchester white box 115gn FMJ.

Marc

Thanks Marc,

I will order some wolff springs for my p08. Last time when I fired my p08 my hand was shaking because of the hard trigger pull. I have to get used to it I guess.

Is you p08 all matching to?

Leen