Problem with P08
 

Hello! What i must do, when P08 bolt is locked in the middle and don't want to move to the forward and to the back? Barrel don't want move too. Any ideas?

Thanks for quickly reply. I don't think so because, these parts removed:
-TRIGGER SIDEPLATE
-TRIGGER
-GRIPS
-LOCKING BOLT
-SEAR BAR WITH SPRING
-SAFETY BAR
-MAINSPRING & MAINSPRING GUIDE
-FIRING PIN WITH SPRING & SPRING RET.

In this moment - no chance. I have suposse, that problem is ejector. Is it possible?

Not really. The bolt has a channel, which allows the ejector to pass through when the bolt cycles. There would have to be obstructions on either side of the ejector in the channel for it not to move in either direction. This is unlikely. A broken piece of the ejector may be possible. Does the ejector look complete from the side of the gun?

On the side - yes. Tell me how remove this, maybe after removing, we will see the problem?

On this forum in the Technical Information there is a pictured
disassembly.

Have you tried going in through the grip area and depressing the hold open?

Vern

Great Idea, Vern! I had to try that for myself. Yeah! Just go up and pull down on the tab that the mag button catches on. NEAT!

Hope that clears 7th's problem

FN

Yes, I tried, but it didn't help.

Is the upper frame bent or damaged in any way? Will the upper frame come off the lower frame?
If the upper is not simply sliding off the lower with all the parts mentioned removed, it sounds as if one or the other of the frame components is damaged.

Sounds like a weak or missing HO spring to me also. With the toggle held open, you should be able to pull back on the toggle and push down on the HO from the top, to allow the breech block to clear it. TH

Upper frame don't want to move. HO move, but hasn't spring.

So sounds like your hold open spring broke and has jammed the action.

Can you remove the rear toggle pin and then the rear toggle?
This might allow you to see what is causing the problem.

Vern

Yes, i did it, but still don't know why upper frame don't move. I saw that, hold open isn't this problem.

Where are you located? maybe a forum member can examine your Luger for you.

He is in Poland

I'm from Poland, so i suspect, that is someone in this forum, who life in Poland, too.

I'm sure that there are some good retired machinist in Poland that could solve your problem, or contact one of the Luger gunsmiths in Germany (on this Forum), to see about shipping your luger to him for repair. TH

In Poland live 40 milions people, so here are some good gunsmiths. With shipping guns or "strategic" parts of gun (barrel, firing pin...) to other country from Poland, or from other country to Poland is big problem, because this is illegal here.

Illegal?

Shipping the gun in and out of the country or possessing the gun altogether?

Generaly yes, but if you want, you must go office and is much paper work and they must not permint you. Polish law about weapon is stupid and strange. Here are term like "specially dangerous weapon" (sub-machine guns, assault rifles...) which you can't have for collector licence id as sniper rifles.

7th_son,
all countries have their laws and there's nothing wrong with that. You do not need to ship your Luger out of country, but just to the nearest gunsmith or maybe to a friend who is familiar with that. You can also try to do it yourself, but be careful to not break something.
Danko

Is this possible, that this problem is broke part of locking bolt or something different, but by this hole?

Bolt of my p08 block in the same position like on this photo http://my-funspace.com/wp-content/up.../luger_p08.jpg

It's possiblable that your center toggle axel has drifted out of position (broken retaining pin) and is preventing the toggle from fully closing. Looks like a nice Dutch holster in Photo. TH

Portuguese, actually :)

Personally I think it is generally a bad idea to discuss illegally owned fire arms on public forums like this. Not only does the owner disclose more info than he would like, it can also put other posters in a difficult (legal) position.

So if this pistol is illegally owned, I would kindly ask you to remove this thread altogether.

About which part you're talking? http://www.okiegunsmithshop.com/luger08.jpg

No, when i said, that it i bought illegaly? Illegaly is shipping guns and important parts in my country. My p08 i bought legaly.

He is talking about part number 7. Your picture makes me think the toggle cannot compress the firing pin spring for some odd reason, like the firing pin is locked inside the breechblock. From the picture you show to fully closed is when the firing pin spring is compressed. Curious! Can you take both side pictures of your gun with the grips off to check the coupling link (part 9) to make sure it is completely engaged. Curious!:confused:

Part number 7 i can remove. Parts 4 & 6 move. Part 9 is free (isn't problem).

In your previous posts you said you have the locking bolt removed. Is the little spring that sits under the bolt laying down in the groove or is any part of it popped up of the groove? And part number 7 SHOULD NOT be coming out unless you have removed the very small retaining pin that goes through the top of the left toggle knob.

The part number 19? This part is broken in the half.

Part 19
 

Hi,

Part 19 is a leaf spring, curled around toward the front of the pistol, and flat toward the back. It normally slides into a slot and presses down on the sear.

Is the front part of this leaf spring missing?

It's possible that it's jammed behind the sear (part 19). Can you move or remove the sear?

The sear is held in place by a short leaf spring that closes a half circle and holds it against a pin in the frame.

Marc

Yes, front part of spring. Sear bar removed. On the previous site i wrote parts, which were removing

Is it possible that part #9 is jammed in the magazine well, or behind part #22?

When I'm putting a Luger back together, I put the barrel/receiver group upside down on the desk. Part 9 to the rear. Then slide the frame over the receiver as far as it will go. Next I bring it all upright,At this point #9 is behind # 22. Ease the receiver forward until part #9 falls in front of part 22, then back. Everything seats and I can put the side plate #39 in place.

Part 9 is free-moves, so i think it isn't problem.