Shocking discovering!
 

:eek:
I always believed my 1937 S/42 has all # matching except the magazine.
Even the grips were matching. I just sent them out for restoring. (Now I have temporary some aftermarket grips on the gun)
Now I've discovered that the rear toggle bolt has no number at all. Is there any chance that a 1937 S/42 Luger had a rear toggle bolt without a number?
I checked the FAQ section and as far I understand the rear toggle bolt must have a number.
BTW, why is it that the ejector does not have a # ?
At the FAQ list is the ejector not mentioned.
Thanks

The ejector is basically a spring, and springs generally are not numbered. There is a risk of work hardening an already brittle piece of metal.

And the ejector isn't supposed to live that long, it's a wear part. Hence no need to number it.

when you say rear toggle bolt, I am guessing the rear toggle pin and not the rear toggle link?

A blank number in my opinion is better than a wrong numbered one.... but for a 1937, still a hit...


Ed

Ed,
I mean part number 020 (pin)
http://www.lugerforum.com/images/lugerparts.gif

Were 1937 S/42 Lugers manufactured w/o a numbered pin?
Thanks.

NO


FAQ: #20

Quote:

Note, that the rear toggle pin was not serial-numbered until 1932.

so, anything after 1932 should have the last two of the serial number....

Ron, The ejector is basically a spring, and springs generally are not numbered. There is a risk of work hardening an already brittle piece of metal.

It is possible to mark this hardened part...Erfurt-Krieg ejector's are proofed. I would think the part could be marked & then hardened?

Of course as Vlim says..it's a disposable part, why bother.

Jerry Burney

Thanks Ed,

I have overlooked this sentence.
I'm really disappointed now to have a mismatched shooter...

Jerry,
I was aware that Erfurt an Krieghoff ejectors are inspector marked. Probably in the grand scheme of things, such a small mark does not weaken the ejector appreciably. An inspector's mark could be applied during part production. Most likely it was done before hardening as you surmised. However, to add a serial number once the ejector is associated with a specific piece would not be very practical since the weapon would be in the final stages of assembly. Halting assembly at this point to harden/temper the ejector would be counter-productive

I highly disagree with this being considered a mismatched shooter; however, if you desire to sell it to me for $650 shipped, the check will be in the mail tomorrow....


Ed

I'm lost. It has been sending out for refurbishing. Then why that number is still so annoying. That should be way less important after restoration.

Ed,
thanks, but I am trying to get the correct pin. Even if it takes me a while.
I am still in love with her and would not give her up just for this blemish.

Ron, I know you knew this....I'm just sayin. It's possible..Just dosen't make any sence.

Jerry Burney

I knew you knew that I knew.;) I quit trying to make sense out of why Lugers were made one way sometimes and another way another time...I just go with the flow!:)

I just sent the original grips with #59 to Hugh for recheckering and restauration. The gun will not be refurbished.

To me a wrong firing pin or wrong toggle pin does not make a shooter.

I looked; I have a 10
89 or a 68
27
04
62
25
and a 93



Ed

Ron & Jerry, since I'm a kinda Mauser Guy, I thought I would mention that the early K-Date ejectors were marked with a "S"!! :D

"a kinda Mauser Guy"...wow, that's an understatement!:) Didn't know about the "S" on a K-Date. Another thing to look for when evauating authenticity. Thanks.

Those early K's have Ss even on the top of the front sight blade, mag release, ejector and trigger. Ss everywhere!! Some have even been known to shoot blue pencils! World of Lugers by Constanzo shows on page 321 Eagle over 6 Simson proofing possible as well as a smaller Eagle over 6 and the K and Erfurt marking that Ron Wood mentioned. A great book!!
http://members.rennlist.org/lugerman/ThorK2.jpg
http://members.rennlist.org/lugerman/ThorK3.jpg

Ed,
thanks alot.

I found the missing numbered pin !
 

Finally, I found a place to buy the missing rear togle pin with No. 59 on it.
I am so happy to get the correct numbered part.
Seems they have a huge amount of old luger parts, worth to try to get a correct numbered part.
http://www.asamnet.de/~ehrenred/ersatzt/p08.htm