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WW1 Luger with KAGGR1 marking
Gentlemen,
did somebody ever saw a Luger with a unit marking: KAGGR or KAGGR1 ? Thanks |
No problem: it´s Kaiser Alexander Garde Grenadier Regiment No. 1.
I remember a holster for it. Regards Klaus |
Hi Klaus,
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I 've collected alot of items of this Regiment during the last 20 years. Here you can see our great-grandfather Franz. He is wearing a miter and a clarinette: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_...Regiment_Nr._1 I'm looking for a luger with the KAGGR / KAGGR1 marking, but I am not sure if a luger with this marking even exists. |
Hello!
Is this Kaiser your relative somehow? That would be great! :bowdown: In my country we don`t have any monarchs... Just the old thing... democracy... after a country dividing civil war... Mostly peasants and such.. For more, see Internet. Sorry for my irony. ;) No cruel meanings intended. Just everyone of us is a King... |
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Andy,
I do not have a Garde Grenadier Regiment 1 Luger but I do have one from the 2nd Regiment. |
nope
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Well, at least the Finns were good, trustworth allies. :cheers: |
Nice!
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"Kaiser Franz" Garde-Grenadier-Regiment Nr.2 ? Anyway, a nice marking |
Btw
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It was mine and a sold it to a collector here in Germany.
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Andy,
I don't read german but the photo would indicate the gentleman is holding an oboe, not a clarinet. Hope this doesn't contradict family history. |
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honestly, I always thought it is a clarinette.:banghead: Thanks for your information, I have to check on this. |
What a pitty
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I would buy a holster like this instantly. I collect KAGGR1 stuff. |
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Andy,
I´m sorry but I made a mistake. I looked at my older photos and found the holster but it´s stamp was KAGGR4 (Königin Augusta Garde Grenadier Regiment No.4). Holster was made by PAUL WARNEST BERLIN in 1911. Regards Klaus |
Ron, one time more a nice unit marked Luger. You have a great collection and are one of the best experts. Thanks for showing.
Regards Klaus |
Thank you Klaus. Considering the excellent quality of your collection, I consider your complement high praise indeed.
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even a KAGGR4 holster is very rare. If you cross a KAGGR1 holster sometime, please keep me in mind. "Es lebe hoch das Regiment, dass sich mit Stolz Alexander nennt!" (Hail the Regiment, which is called Alexander) |
Andy
I have a 1917 LP.08, sn 9868g, marked 1.G.G.12.9 which signifies: 1. Kaiser Alexander Garde Grenadier Regiment, 12 Kompagnie, Waffe no. 9. It is shown on page xxv of Imperial Lugers, Second Edition. Jan |
Here's another one for the list" I have 5.G.G.M.G.55. It is a 1912 DWM (tough date to find). Nice gun, serial 8337ns.
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I am confused. I thought always the marking for this Regiment was KAGGR1. Is there a listing of all unit markings somewhere online? I could not find anything. |
I think that th best source of unit markings is Jeff Noll's great book "The Imperial German Regimental Marking". Wealth of information.
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Andy
1.G.G. signifies: 1. Garde Grenadier Regiment, which has the honor name of 1. Kaiser Alexander Garde Grenadier Regiment source Gortz German Small Arms Markings page 40. The information is in a book. Jan |
Andy,
Luger unit markings do not include the honorary designation, so "1.G.G.xx.x" is exactly what you are looking for. |
Andy
Luger marking instructions call for 1.G.G. as the format for the 1st Garde Grenadier Regiment. Gortz German Small Arms Markings (page 20, 40) identifies this as "Kaiser Alexander Garde -Grenader-Regiment Nr 1". Have never seen (nor has such been reported) a Luger marked KAGGR / KAGGR1. However, I have a spiked helmet marked KAGGR1 / IB Only small arms were subject to markings regulations. The unit markings instructions do not include honor names on pistols. However, such are rarely observed. Jan All this information is in a book and not on the net. |
Gentlemen,
thanks to you all for the information. This forum is a great source of knowlege. |
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