Custom Carbine Case
 

Here I would like to show a very nice Carbine case that was commissioned by Luger collector George Fortier of California. He was instrumental in some good ideas that were incorporated in the design.

This case has a cleaning rod sleeve, A tool pouch for a loading tool and punch, A carry sling with a double magazine pouch that carries not only the case but works, detached from the case as a rifle sling for the carbine. This last was the good Idea of George.
At first we had planned to attach the double mag pouch to the case but it made much more sence to attach it to the carry sling as that could go with the rifle.

Enjoy!

Jerry Burney

Just without words, beautiful...

Just without words is right - SPEECHLESS! WOW! is all I can muster!

Jerry

You do some amazing work!:bowdown:

Jerry
Once again a masterpiece. You continue to amaze me. Bill

Jerry, nobody would be able to make it better. As all collectors say: You are a master!
Best to you Klaus

Wow!
Mauro

I agree. WOW! Outstanding work. Do you have a photo showing the sling attached to the carbine?

Charlie

Jerry, simply outstanding work.

Now, convince him that he needs an ammo belt to go with it :)

Gentlemen, Thank you all for your kind words...A lot of sweat went into this case!

I do not have any photo's of the sling attached to the pistol & stock. I regret to say I neglected to take this shot before sending the case to George. Perhaps he will take some photo's with his 02 Carbine in this configuration.

Vlim, I am glad George didn't think of this! I cannot emagine what other accessorie one could put on it.

Jerry Burney

Hmm, a matching trommel magazine carrying pouch in leather, perhaps? ;)

Truely magnificent work Jerry. Adds beauty and value to the Luger Carbine on the whole. Makes me want one (like I can afford it..:crying:)

Nice Item, Nice Work!
 

Another great display of craftmanship! Only can be accomplished with old world master craftsmans skills! Great work Jerry! I am very impressed, you'll have to let your thumbs heal after that one..;)... Best to all, til...lat'r...GT

Duane..Don't feel bad, I can't afford one like it either! The Cobbler's children have no shoes...

GT..That is a great compliment coming from another great craftsman. Time is my enemy. I just don't have enough to go round.

Jerry Burney

Man, that thing is AWESOME! Fantastic work mate :)

Jerry, I've heard from George, he loves it. Perhaps he will honor us with a photo of everything installed in the closed case, so we'll know what to look for at the range, as he does shoot this one occassionally. I found the photos with the carbine & stock lying on top, hard to see the case. TH

Tom, Went. Mauro, Charlie..Many thanks!

Yes, I am hoping George will take some better photo's. I will try to get Ed T. to post the 1st group of photo's I took without the carbine on top.

I wish I had more time to fool around with good photography but I am busy pushing a needle.

I managed to scrape out a little time this Summer to do some interesting projects but now I have to catch up with repairs.

Jerry Burney

I think these are the correct pictures.

Ed, Thanks! The top 3 photo's are another case. The bottom 2 are George's without the Carbine...

I appreciate your help! I am sure George will be along sooner or later with some new photo's and commentary.

Jerry Burney

I'm not that familiar with the Luger Carbine dimensions. With the Carbine inside the case, what is the protruding "dot" in the center?

Duane, The odd looking dot you see in the center of the case is the forward sling swivel under the wooden forearm. It is wider than most anything else on the pistol. You can also notice the one on the stock in the top 2-3 photo's on the unfinished case. It is in the lower left.

Jerry Burney

Jerry made mine last year for my 1920 9mm Luger Carbine.

My problem is the case is beautiful and am seriously impressed. Because of that fact, I want one and don't even own a Luger Carbine. How sick is that? I'm probably going to have nightmares about it now. :eek:

Your Time Will Come!
 

Even Ralph Shattuck started with one luger. Even if it was one of George Lugers' personal' GL' pieces!!.

Beautiful craftsmanship, as usual, Jerry. It looks like a professional made it-----oh, that's right! a professional DID make it!!:bowdown:

What is amazing, each single stitch is by hand. I'm trying to find Him a golden thimble!

Here is the finished product with a 1902 carbine.

Wow that is a nice case!

Hey Jerry have you ever made a full holster from scratch?

The reproductions these days are not that great look wrong etc.

A DWM commercial in that nice dark brown color, like this case, would really look sharp.

What other leather work do you like to do? I have done some things in the past when I did the Ren fair / armor / medievil scene and know just how hard it is to make things in a period style.

I can really appreciate what you do.

Matt..Yes. I have made many. I usually stick to holsters like Baby Luger holsters or Imperial Navy. These are either not available at all (Baby) or are made so poorly collectors want a more accurate copy. Trouble with Luger holsters from scratch..They are expensive.

I stick with repairs of any pre 1945 military holsters and mostly repro's of German period items. Lanyards, double mag pouches, carbine straps..things like that. I am only a one man shop and repairs occupy most of my time.

Thanks for the appreciation!

Got any photo's of your chain mail projects?

Jerry Burney

Jerry (My Airborne Comrade in Arms 503D Parachute Infantry) made a pig skin holster and mag pouch for my Mauser Navy Commerative.

It is EXQUISITE. Not cheap, but the best you can get.
Tom A.

Today is FOD

Here are a some shots of some of my armor projects. The main suit is my design but, not all my metal work. The chain maile is all my work and I did all the leather strapping for both suits as well as the belts sword scabbard and handle etc. I even made the blue coin purse in the one photo.

Not doing the Ren fair scene any longer just too much hassle and drunk guys that think they can "dent your armor" never ended too good for them. :D

I have been into guns ever since my Dad taught me to shoot I can really only afford one exspensive hobby and well guns are it unless I hit the lotto.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=904

Me in the shiny stuff my bro in the chainmail.

More photos in my album.

Thanks Colonel! I appreciate your patronage and support over the years.

Matt..That's really something! A Friend was by here last week and his Son had made a chain mail shirt & helmet. Unbelieveably heavy clothing! I bet your shirt weighs in the neighborhood of 30+ Lbs? That's an era where Men were Men! Really nice stuff..thanks for showing! Bet it took a lot of hard work to put that together....Nice job. Looks like the real thing.

Are weapons prohibited? you fellows are woefully unarmed....

Jerry Burney

Yeah depends on the Fair and what insurance they have etc etc.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=902

Some will let you carry as long as it is tied in a way that makes them not easy to get out.

When I'm in the full suit and I do not have someone watching my back I started leaving the sword in the truck.

Drunk people do dumb things and I had an incident where a guy damn near ripped my sword carrier off trying to draw my sword to "test out my armor"

He nearly lost a few fingers when I closed my vambrace (elbow) on his fingers. He quickly let go. Normally this would have been just another "drunk guy" story but, at the time I was talking to a group of smaller kids and one of the little guys nearly got clobbered by the tussle. That was one of the last straws. The full plate suit weights in at over 90 pounds and I'm not a small guy so in full garb I'm around 350 pounds of sharp edges, metal elbows and knees.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/picture....&pictureid=903

And before anyone asks the million dollar question. Yes, it is hot in the suit. (FAQ)

The trick is to wear a water soaked under garment made from cotton. Once the metal heats up the cotton and water wick the heat away and you don't over heat. Well unless you close the visor for more than 10-15 mins at a time. I have worn the full garb for 8-10 hours at a time in the Florida heat.

Matt..Amazing! I have never been to one of these fairs. Colorado has a big one but I just never went.
This stuff looks expensive! Not something you can buy at the hardware store...

The helmet looks to be small and fairly tight fitting. From your photo.. it appears there is also a chain mail helmet underneath. Is there much padding? Can the helmet take a good blow and not transfer it to your head?
It's fascinating that our members are accrosse the board of diversefied interests.

I should get out of the leather shop more...

Jerry Burney

They style of helm is commonly called a close helm. Its a double meening as it fits very close to the head and opens and closes at the chin by swinging open. The helm is designed to cause blows to glance off due to the rounded edges and slopes.
It will transfer blows more so than a larger helm but, it offers better vison and mobility and weight savings.

There are garments worn underneth that offer a good deal of padding. An arming cap would be worn into combat that would offer the best padding and would be leather and wool. Not something you can wear in the hotter states as the wool would bake your brain in the heat. Most knights would only put on the helmet right before combat.

To be period correct you would not wear a full chainmail hood under the helm all the time as its really not needed but , I added it to the suit because everyone always asked about it.

They wore chain only in the areas that the plate could not cover.

I lost count of the hours I spent making the chain it really is time comsuming and to make it bearable you have to make it in stages.

You start with a roll of wire and many steps later you have your item.

My armor making days are over. I'd rather just design an item and commision someone to make it.

At the time this suit was completed it was about the same price as say a good artillery model about 2500.

Jerry I hope you have an apprentice to pass on your art. I know several of the best armor / weapon smiths that never passed on their craft and the things you are able to do are a lost art. Most kids today have no clue how to make anything of craftmanship.

I'm a putersmith (computer systems engineer) by trade and my kids have no interest in learning my craft. I'm old school and most of the techs now can't do anything that does not have a mouse and pretty buttons to click on.

Jerry,
If you think stitching holsters is tedious (and it is!), try linking together all of those thousands of little wire circles to make chain mail. It wouldn't take much to get me interesed in renaissance fairs, or wild west re-enactment, or old car rallies or.....so much to do, so little time left. Guess I'll stick with gardening and landscaping, woodworking, antique car rebuilding, gun collecting, helmet restoration....so much to do, so little time left.

(Hey, I'm a retired computer systems engineer too!)

Ron,

You might be my real Dad. Did you ever visit the North Carolina foot hills about 35 years ago? :D

Yeah I'm the same way, I like to get away from the mundane and "play dress up" WW1, WW2, Medievil, cowboy shooting.

You can only have so many hobbies.. so little time..

35 years ago I was stationed at White Sands Missile Range, NM, but it was good thought...thank you!

Ron..If you think stitching holsters is tedious (and it is!), try linking together all of those thousands of little wire circles to make chain mail.

I agree...I also find that if you have a passion in your heart.. you can do most anything if you can get the time somewhere.

Jerry Burney

You hit the nail on the head. The passion is there, but the time is waaay too elusive.