Nice G Date ruined
 

This looks to have been a nice G Date that was ruined
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=122848139

Does anybody know who Barry Gathafner is and if he was a Luger collector ??

Jim

Interesting "official" bring back document.

I like this, " Note, I did not take a hi resolution image of the document as I did not want this document copies and reproduced by anyone."

They must have bollixed the first attempt. The side panel and receiver have been sanded or draw filed and cold blued. Note the 3 different SN fonts. Numbers on the side plate are twice as large, and the 4s are all different.

It doesn't look like a stamping to me, but engraved and heck, hand engraved at that ;)


Ed

Hey, I know, let's get lickered up and try out my new engraving pen...

Looks like a POS

It's a pitty..

Certificates can be made by anyone who can handle a printer, pen and a stamp/photoshop.
I sometimes request safety related certificates from trough my work. If needed badly enough, they will somehow find it's way to the table within an hour. Usually with a stamp or language unknown to me. Anything can look authentic and good, but if it can't be traced, it's pretty worthless.

The death heads look like Gary Larson comic strip characters.

"A fool and his money will soon be parted"

Mike -- Lacking of knowledge has nothing to do with intelligence. On average, modern man and woman are actually not smarter than their ancestors 2000 or 3000 years ago, although modern people are more knowledgable on many things. Also, I noticed people's capabilities are multi-dimentioal, some are strong in this area, some are strong in another area.

Word History: The pejorative nature of the term fool is strengthened by a knowledge of its etymology. Its source, the Latin word follis, meant "a bag or sack, a large inflated ball, a pair of bellows." Users of the word in Late Latin, however, saw a resemblance between the bellows or the inflated ball and a person who was what we would call "a windbag" or "an airhead." The word, which passed into English by way of French, is first recorded in English in a work written around the beginning of the 13th century with the sense "a foolish, stupid, or ignorant person."

2. A person deficient in intellect; one who acts absurdly, or pursues a course contrary to the dictates of wisdom; one without judgment; a simpleton; a dolt.

may i assume that you fellows don't like the gun???
 

i fully expect it will be purchased.........

Like Jim said... a nice G date ruined. Early B90 S91 proofs. (a) suffix.
What a shame. It hurts to look at it.

"The death heads look like Gary Larson comic strip characters" - Greg G


Bid is up to $1,813.00 with 17 bids so far????

Maybe Gary Larson did do the drawing on it. His original artwork is quite valuable.

Here is one consolation . Inspection Period / Return Policy " Five Days from the date the item is received "

Old Jarhead,
you must be talking about Folks in Washington DC, ones we elect to represent us

Jim

Current Bid $2,225.00

He has a 1935 numbered police holster with matching numbered magazine and tool also. The other matching numbered mag is in the g-date. Same bidder on both auctions.

Might not mean anything, but lots of the same bidders in all his auctions.

Current Bid $5,000.00 WOW

Information added 02/17/2009 12:56:29 AM]
Note that due to many requests, I've decided to go ahead and upload a better image of the dated and signed capture certificate. I'm now showing front and back.

“capture certificate” Does not prove anything if it was doctored after the fact. Get real. Must be a lot of gullible people in la la land. Can’t be any of the bidders are forum members. They should be.

And more from the same seller:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=122935528
A poor old Mauser k98 infected with the same deathead syndrome.:rolleyes:

I have been surprised at how many folks I meet out in the shows that are not on the web or don't care or don't have ANY luger books, they are going by their feelings and that is an easy way to get burnt...

The deaths head on the Mauser is even more comical looking than the one on the P-08

Jon

That's a real shame that looks like a nice K98 that is now a shooter grade.

I can't believe that Hump went for $5000!!! When he realizes it's bogus he'll try to recoup his losses by selling it for even more...with a better story!

Has anyone ever seen a Government form without a form #. The stamp compares with some that I have, But all in black. And having 40 years as a typewriter repairman, I can tell you someone put in a lot of effort to make it look that bad. Any company clerk would be the brig for putting that in front of any Major I have ever met. Even one that could not decide if he was right or left handed.

Lynn

HAHAHA!!! What kind of Death Head is that! Looks like Bozo the Clown died and they used his face! This is just too funny for words...What kind of idiot would shell out over 4 grand for this rediculous POS? Wonders never cease.

Jerry Burney

It's new era's BBQ gun, much easier than engraving oak leaves, and much easier to ask more.

If you do have a shooter for sale, please help yourself adding a few SS, Death Head, or Swastika, etc on it. Do it in a tasteful way, and not too busy. It should help :) If it does not sell, you lose nothing, it's a shooter no matter you add them or not.

Steinar: That brings a whole new meaning the phrase 'shooting blanks'!! :D

Odd...
 

Did anyone notice that the same buyer bought both of these blatantly bogus items !

Does any one know what the "Z"on the LH receiver of the Luger might be?....

Take a look at the date 28 May 1945 paying attention to the 2 and the 8. Then look at Mauser Rifle sn 7253 8mm

The type font for all the Luger and Mauser info is different than the rest of the document.

The death head and SS were obviously not inscribed at the factory, however that is the correct deathhead marking; it may have been a depot stamp. The certificate looks correct also, with the proper wording etc. I wouldn't write it off without a closer look.