41- 42 Luger
 

This is my last acquisition for my collection, a 41 â?? 42 Luger. I have been yearning for this Luger for a long time. As you all know the estimate production of this Luger is just 7000, so it has been on my wish list for a long time.
Itâ??s condition is not outstanding, but acceptable.
It was with a Simson magazine, which I replaced with an fxo mag, since I do not have a type 3 Army mag for it and the Simson magazine went into the Magazine collection...:)

Sorry for the quality of the photos, but buying Lugers signify little money to buy a good camera..
:cheers:

Nice, except the left grip appears to be a new repro. If not correctly numbered to the luger, perhaps I can supply a correct one. Lugerdoc at hellerarms@webtv.net

I should have added that the gun is all matching including the firing pin and the grips.
I would be glad to buy any type 3 army magazine for this Luger. :)
Alf

Good going Alf! That is a really difficult variation to find.

Hi Alf, nice find!!:cheers:

Any chance of getting a photo of the serial number on the front of the frame? I may have a spare 122 Type Magazine. :)

hey, my heart skipped a beat for a second, I own Simson 9028 :)


Nice find!

Ed

That would be something. :jumper: ED

Frank, I will buy your mag if you wish.
Here is a front photo, I hope it is good enough.
Thank you all. :cheers:
Alf.

Here is the left side.
Alf

Alf, a "proper" magazine for your Luger is a 122 Code WaA E/37 in the N-Block. I looked in my spare box and couldn't find one. :( Sorry! But I'll keep looking for you. They are tough to find, but possible! Good Luck.

Very nice! Thanks for sharing your new find with us, Alf!

Alf, I have an unnumbered BPB/code 122 mag available. PM sent. Lugerdoc

Thanks. PM send.
Alf

Barrel Proof?
 

Alf,
I have a 41/42 that was refinished at sometime in the past. I was wondering if yours has a barrel proof on the upper left rear portion of the barrel? Mine doesn't seem to have that proof, but I believe it is supposed to have it. It seems to have all of the proofs on the right side of the receiver and on the barrel, which are still pretty sharp. The one on my gun may have been polished off , especially if it were fairly faint.
Thanks for any info that you care to share.
barry

Hi Barry, Yes my barrel has two stamps and the the barrel gauge which is 8.81. the stamps are Acceptance stamp E/655 and the Army Test Proof.
Attached photo of stamps, I hope that they are clear enough for you to see.:burnout:
If you need more info,just ask.:cheers:

Alf.

Acceptance stamp.
 

Thanks Alf,
Evidently the acceptance stamp on my pistol has been buffed off, although there is some minute trace of it on the left upper rear portion of the barrel. Other than that all of the other markings are strong and correct.
It's a unique variation, so enjoy yours, being all original except for your mag. still makes it a prized possession, I'm sure.
Mine came with a correct mag. of the period, but it doesn't match the serial number of the gun. Sounds like with the help of some of those on the forum, you'll be able to solve that problem easy enough. This is a great group of folks here.
Thanks again, barry

Thanks Barry,
I am glad to say that I found a correct Type3 Army magazine for my luger and I am waiting for it to arrive.:thumbsup:
As you said this is a great forum with great members.:cheers:
Alf.

Alf, Very nice luger, Thanks for sharing. Looks like it has nicely figured grips...

Congrats, Jesse

Alf
It's always fun to find a nice 41-42 Luger. one thing I might point out is that 7000 is an old number. Research has found the production of these pistols to be closer to 15,000. The 1940-42 Lugers occupied the first 2500 serial numbers in the early - n - block. After that it was all 41-42 Lugers. This in itself was 7500 pistols. Thank Frank for his - n - block research, he convinved me there were no 41-byf Lugers in the - n - block leaving only 1940-42 in the early part and the rest being 41-42 Lugers. After the - n - block there will be many 41-42 Lugers to be found that were assembled along with the 41-byf Lugers in the - o - and - p - block and a very few in the - r - block, even one reported by R Gibson in the ns block of 1942.

Silvereagle29,

Thank you for the interesting information regarding the 41-42 production.
If you have more details regarding this production I will be glad to have it please.;)

Alf.

I will send you some additional information in a couple of days. Does anyone have any idea how the 41-42 came about. It was not a scheduled production date.

Thank you again for your help. What do you mean by,
" It was not a scheduled production "
Alf

Alf
My opinion...Mauser was ordered to change their code from 42 to byf during 2-41. In addition the 1941 production was scheduled to display a two digit chamber date. The existing four digit date (1940) was to become a two digit date (41) Re: 1940 - to - 41. Mauser over ran the 1940 frames and 42 toggle codes to compensate for this change. The 41 two digit receivers appeared long before the byf toggle assembles because this was a 1941 dated change requirement. When Mauser became short of 1940 dated receivers in January of 1941 at the approximate serial number of 2400n; they started to use the new two digit receivers with the 41 date along with the existing inventory of 42 toggle assembles. These parts were assembled with the old 1940 frames. Here Gentleman the 41-42 Luger was born!!!. Note, the early 41-42 Lugers will have no P 08 mark on the frame which indicated 1940 frames. The new frames with the required P 08 mark appeared very close to number 3294n, this occurred before 2-41. Consequently you will see 41-42 Lugers with 1940 frames and no P 08 mark between about 2490n and 3294n. Beyond this serial number all 41-42 Lugers will have the required P 08 frame mark. I believe the entire - n - block from this point was consumed with the non-scheduled the 41-42 Luger. I believe at this point you should ask Frank Manders for his opinion on Lugers with byf toggles in the - n -letter suffix. He may have some opinions relating to the 41-42 Luger. I'm certainly open to your comments and opinions.

Silvereagle29, extremely interesting information. One point I wish to clarify, I was always with the impression that the receiver date was stamped along the proofing stamping. If I understand you correctly you gave the indication that Mauser stamped one year production receivers with the year date before completion of the gun, is that correct?
Alf.