Obama and guns
 

I was having coffee at the local watering hole this morning and one of the guys mentioned that he had heard that Obama would try to make things very hard to purchase/sell rifles, pistols, etc.. I haven't heard of anything like this so far in the campaign and was wondering if anyone else had heard it.

Thanks, Brent B.:confused:

Brent, you cam bank on it. First will be gun shows followed closely by a new and even more far reaching "assault weapons ban". A year or so later I would expect he'll go after pistols.

guns'n'politics
 

Hi Brent, The gun issue has been a tough nut for the Dem's to crack, and they have learned to adapt their political philosophy so as not to be high profile in that arena... Some Dem's are pro gun, but not many, and not historically... nobody really knows what obama is all about..but you can bet it ain't going to be good for us! As the old dog hard line Dem's absolutely hate guns.. and us... Best to you, til...lat'r...GT:( :( :(

Brent, this has been the talk of the forums for a bit, over the last couple of months.... ;)


I hope that folks have voted today; anyone who doesn't has NO excuses....


Geo, you'll be happy to know I voted straight down the party line, some party called GOP?


Ed

Thanks for the imput. Maybe things will end up going to a prohibition type era with a flourishing black market. Kinda makes me want to start going to all the garage sales and asking them if they have any guns they want to get rid of so there won't be a paper trail. I voted a straight GOP ticket also. Brent B.

Its been speculation since neither party desired to bring it up and/or answered very many questions on it....


Guess I should keep that nice M1 Carbine I picked up recently ;)

Why worry about what Nobama will or won't do? That fuzzy headed foreigner is not going to be elected. He will fade into obscurity and leave the Dems to figure out what loser to run against McCain-Palin 4 years from now.

Jerry Burney

Jerry, I hope you're right about that fuzzy headed foreigner not getting elected. I'm a bit nervous about this election. I've never seen so many people swayed by someone who talks so much and says nothing. Brent B.

" PRAY JERRY IS RIGHT"

Hi Tac, glad to see you posted and always appreciate your opinion on this and other topics. Honestly, I've heard very little about how Obama feels about guns. I would have thought the NRA would be more involved in this election if there was a chance he'd be trying to get purchasing limits, mag ban, assault weapons ban, etc.. Possibly the lack of gun talk was to keep the NRA out of it. I enjoy having my C&R license, my CC permit and my tax stamp for my machine gun. Best, Brent B.

Tac, I was replying to your first reply and then saw your second post after I'd submitted it. Yes, if elected he'll be the arab's best friend and all my paperwork won't be hanging in the bathroom but will be used for a different purpose in that room. I stocked up on ammo and reloading components a few years ago and have enough that I can shoot (if that will still allowed) for the rest of my life and still leave plenty for my sons. Like the gunman, I'm praying Jerry is right. Best, Brent B.

Brent, The American Rifleman magazine.... mailed to some millions of members has outlined their stance throughly and they sponsored many media, radio and TV ads telling the American Public what a dispicable rat this guy is.
When all this shakes out we can put him and his kind out of our minds untill the Dems come up with a kook farther to the left. Who that would be I cannot imagine. Stalin is dead.

Sit back..relax, all is well in the Republic.
Jerry Burney

Hey Jerry, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!

Tonite as you blow out your candles, make that wish count!!!

Here's to many more birthdays pursuing our great hobby.

:cheers:

Jesse

tac,

It's a sad state of affairs when you know more about what's going on here that most of our citizens! God bless you.

Keep the home fires burning,
Mike:cheers:

" Right on Tac " Advice from the man thats been there done that. I beleive we are in Trouble.
Richie

As I am watching the returning coming in, I can only hang my head and pray.

Mike

I am glad that I visited this web site now. I hope and pray that Jerry is right. But here in Michigan, the dems have all the newspapers in their back pocket. So I'm getting totally biased news. My gut feeling is that o' bomber is going to win. I went the straight GOP ticket too. I hope that more did too. Listening to all of the above comments made me feel good and that I am not the Lone Ranger anymore.
Big Norm

Now that "it" has won the election, I'm heading out this week and buying a couple more handguns and 8-10 thousand rounds of ammo just for storage before "it" takes office. With the wife's blessing no less.

No, I'm not a doomsayer, just being prepared for the inevitable gun bans.

Let's hope that the miserable economy, record high unemployment, dismal auto sales, increasing mortgage defaults, continued major retailer failures, accelerating home deflation values and last but not least, finding money to fund everything (read higher taxes) keep "it" busy so that the topic of gun control may not even be discussed for at least four years!

I think the Democrats believe they have been empowered by the election. I'd be willing to bet they will try and pass new gun control laws at the federal and state level. It won't be there top priority, but they'll get around to it.

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I'm more bummed out now then when Clinton got elected the first time. I have a feeling that I'll be emailing my elected officials quite a bit over the next four years and it's something that everyone will be needing to do. Conny and Tac have it right, buy now and put it in storage. Brent B.

Brent -- I love that tank in avatar. It must burn oil like crazy. Half a mile per gallon, maybe?

Obama will probably come after my Avatar also!!! It's a 1/16th scale Tamiya full option radio controlled model that I built over last winter. Brent B.

Tac, I'll go ahead and try the photos in a PM but may have to wait till my oldest son gets into the office as I'm computer stupid and will need his help to post the 2 photos I have of it. I saw a photo of a Panter from the 9th SS Regt. that was knocked out in Normandy and modeled it after that one except for a couple side skirts. Thanks, Brent B.

Looks like we are all screwed. The Dems are in control.

no, they have the majority but not the 60 requried for breaking a fillibuster; in addition, republican voting was estimated at -10% in many states.

It'll be intersting to see what this election will do to gun prices. The $800 pistol you have on GunBroker may soon be worth well over $1,000. Brent B.

i just wrote this on the main gunboards; most of it does not apply here (first couple of lines)As I said, most of this does not pertain here, as the gunboards guys were talking pretty radical stuff. But with possibly 10% of the republicans not voting; that is what hurt us in the election.


Ed

A longer term effort by the current President-elect will be to install Supreme Court judges, when the opportunity arises, that will not be conservative, particularly with respect to our Second Amendment rights.

David

I keep hearing this, but until a Supreme Court Judge decides to retire, this is a moot point. And EVERY sitting president tries to put in judges that appeal to their beliefs???


I'll quit watching the forum today, you guys wear me out with 'what ifs" :bigbye:

Ed, here is the oath I took as a civil servant:
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5 U.S.C. �§3331

And our personal motto "We be here when they came. We be here when they gone"

Re: Obama and guns
 

Sad to say the "assault" has already started "HR6257" has been introduced and in subcommitee in the house. it's a very nast bit of work.

Re: Re: Obama and guns
 

Yeah and just who is sponsoring this bill?


Five Republicans!

:roflmao:

"fuzzy headed foreigner" "IT"


A point to ponder.

I am of Irish and Cherokee decent on my Father's side. Scotch-Irish and Dutch on my Mother's side.

This was a very common image 100 years ago. I nor anyone else of Irish decent could have found a job to support our families, out side of digging ditches or dunging horse stalls for pocket change. I try not to forget my heritage, or how it was, or still could be.

"Redheaded Foreiners"


http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/irish_sign.jpg

Ron,
Good point that reminds me of when I was growing up in NY City and dating my first wife. Her mother and father were from Ireland and lived across the street from an Italian family that had the grandmother from Italy living with them. Every time my ex MIL saw the little old Italian grandmother she'd contemptuously say in her strong Irish brogue "Look at the filthy foreigner" Since I was dating her daughter I didn't say anything.
Of course my father was from Ireland and he was a bigot of the highest order.
Tom

Just think how high the feelings would run if Obama weren't only half black.

And I hope everyone recognizes that as sarcasm. Bigotry is alive and well among the many races of the U. S.. When I was growing up almost everyone I knew was openly bigoted, especially my parents' generation. My parents were less so than most, but not unaffected. As I've stated before, Jim Crow laws were in effect. For one example, water fountains in the courthouse were marked "white" and "colored." A black woman told my wife a few years ago that she wondered as a child what "white water" tasted like. Thank God those days are over and things are somewhat better.

But, living as I do where "whites" are very much in the minority, I have recognized times when I've been discriminated against. Pretty minor for the most part, but not non-existent. And, though much less overt than before, white feelings against other races still exist among people I come into contact with.

Race was a major factor in black voters' support for Obama, as testimony bears out. And some white voters said it was "time a black person were President." Fuzzy thinking on both sides in my view, but inevitable, I suppose. The issues and policies should have been the deciding factors. Just as bad was the likely effect of McCain's age and lack of hair on the voters, IMO.

People are panicky over this election--those on our side, at least. Gloom, despair, and panic buying of guns, ammo, etc. are in evidence. Let's hope and pray not so common sense prevails.

I don't find buying guns and ammo right now to be outside the realm of common sense.
Although the new administration will tackle economic issus first, the new gun and ammo legislation will not be far behind.
I believe anybody with the means who does not pick up what they need or want now will come to regret this sooner rather than later.

Well..... I guess based on the words of our President elect I am just another "Typical White Person" and I have to "Cling to my Guns & Religion" ... The Myan calendar prediction is getting scarier with each day :-(

Anybody still think its no time to buy guns and ammo?

FRom the President Elect's own website;


Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.