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PBS Sarah Palin's VP Qualifications Poll
Friends,
PBS has a short video on Sarah Palin on their website. Also included is a poll that asks: Is Sarah Palin qualified to be VP? ...a few minutes ago the results were 49% percent had voted YES, 49% NO. Let's turn this around..... You don't have to give your name or email address in order to vote. It's very simple. Here's the link: http://www.pbs.org/now/index.html#poll Thanks! |
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PBS is publicly funded-that means tax-payer funded-and it has served as the leftist megaphone for generations, bringing such clap-trap as Bill Moyers. In short it is the lefty, tree-hugger network of choice. I will be astounded if Palin wins in any PBS poll. Tom A |
Agreed. Nobody of any consequence will see or be influenced by a PBS poll. This is the left preaching to itself.
I would almost suppose that the 50/50 split is their own fabrication, as it loosely reflects what other, more unbiased sources are reporting. The simple truth is that they have never polled, you, me or any other conservative who is too busy working for a living. Today I saw my favorite bumper sticker of this campaign to date; "REPUBLICAN Because not everybody can be on welfare" |
Sorry, I listen to PBS (mainly cuz of the wife) and although left leaning they are still fairly open minded compared to many of the "normal" news stations. That said, it is not my "station" of choice, but after 26 years, I don't always get what I want, and sometimes even hear some great stuff ;)
but, if you are afraid of going to their website to support a republican message, that is your right :D Ed |
Evidently not a lot of responders to the poll yet. My single vote changed the tally to 51% Yes, 49% No.
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Ron, Ed will cancel you out.
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My vote kicked it up to 53%. :) :) :)
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It's at 56% now...
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I'm with ed, both on his views of PBS and the Republican ticket. Some folks like PBS, some like Fox network. PBS has some great programs. Depends on how you view the world. Neither is perfect. It would be a very boring world if we all shared only one opinion on everything.
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is it posible that the dem,s could throw biden under the train and bring Hilda Beast back as there VP nom. to try and turn this sure win around? ole biden [sp] sure has been making some funny nois,es the last few days. even though it,s pretty much hopeless for them.
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The fallout at this point would be fatal. Obama would be seen as;
Lacking sound judgement Indecisive A Flip Flopper Pandering to the women's vote Anti old white male liberal Desperate Take your pick of most, if not all of the above |
All of the above and more.
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So you're saying that everyone would finally see him as he really is? Bout time! :eek:
A great line today on Rush Limbaugh's show: Pearl of Wisdom: "Democrats, who constantly preach about separation of church and state, are saying 'Jesus was a community organizer; Pontius Pilate was a governor.' Let me tell you something, Senator Obama: I know Jesus Christ. I pray to Jesus Christ all the time. Barack Obama, you're no Jesus Christ." :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :bigbye: |
Pearl of Wisdom: "Democrats, who constantly preach about separation of church and state, are saying 'Jesus was a community organizer; Pontius Pilate was a governor.' Let me tell you something, Senator Obama: I know Jesus Christ. I pray to Jesus Christ all the time. Barack Obama, you're no Jesus Christ."
This from a drug addict who publicly mocked and ridiculed a man with Parkinson's disease. I wonder how Jesus would view that? |
If I was looking for some intelligent comments Rush Limbaugh would be on the bottom of the list. This is journalism at it's worst. Bill
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:soapbox: Rush Limbaugh is an island of sensible conservatism in an ocean of left wing liberal news media!!!!!!!!!!!!
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A Jounalist? Heck NO!
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Okay guysâ?¦just keep laughingâ?¦ I am reloading! :D By his own admission, Rush Limbaugh is a conservative humorist, commentator and entertainer, and he rejects the label of journalist... he doesnâ??t report the news, he comments on itâ?¦ Limbaugh is very successful at what he does. He wouldnâ??t have an audience calculated to be between 10 to 12 million people on over 700 radio stations nationwide if he wasnâ??t saying what they want to hear. I like Michael J Fox, as an actor, and a comedian, but in the end he is still a liberal... and he had NEVER been seen in public displaying symptoms like he did in the POLITICAL commercials he made during the last election. IMNSHO he did use his personal health condition to draw sympathy in an attempt to get liberal politicians elected that would be favorable for his own agenda. I sympathize with Foxâ??s personal plight, but IMNSHO believe that he exhibited his sentiments in those commercials without the medication that helps control his condition just to advance his agenda on stem cell research. Limbaugh DID apologize if memory serves me correctlyâ?¦ everyone goes off half-cocked once in a whileâ?¦ Liberals will do anything, and say ANYTHING, to advance their cause in this country... including using the popularity of a celebrity with a health condition to get liberals elected, or keep them in office. Just look at all the phony news stories and even doctored photographs regarding Gov. Palin... that are surfacingâ?¦ getting some press and then quietly being shown to be false, but the Obama campaign claims plausible deniability about being behind the liesâ?¦ The choice of Sarah Palin by John McCain has let the "new and improved" and the momentum and wind out of the Obama campaign and they don't know how to combat someone who tells the truth and has the intelligence, experience and determination to keep this country CONSTITUTIONALLY on track...except to create lies that may sway the weak minded. My democrat brother, who graduated as a political science major, probably stated it best when he emailed me 5 minutes after the McCain campaign announced Gov. Palin as the running mateâ?¦ His comment: â??Remind me NEVER to play poker with John McCain.â? Charlie Gibson's interview (ABC) last night with Gov. Palin was conducted from the liberal high horse... and she didn't answer him without making sure she could word her answers so they couldn't be "spin"ed by the media... so now they are trying to use her caution as an example of being unprepared for her eventual duties. I recently was forwarded this email by a member of the forum... (you know who you are Hugh!)... it contains some good and interesting facts about the preparedness and experience of Gov. Palin: =========================================== "Before you dismiss the fact that Sarah Palin is Commander of the Alaska National Guard, consider this: Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It's on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units. As governor of Alaska , Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counter-terrorism. Her exposure to classified material may rival even Biden's and certainly by far exceeds Obama's. She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counter terrorism plans. Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska 's proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don't even know about. According to the Washington Post, she first met with McCain in February, but nobody ever found out. This is a woman used to keeping secrets. She can be entrusted with our national security, because she already is" =================================== We still have not been successfully attacked, in spite of the problems with bureaucratic red tape, and attempting to run this country by committee (congress)... We have established two fledgling democracies (Iraq/Afghanistan) in the midst of the middle east petrie dish where islamic extremism is not only fostered, but encouraged... and those democracies will likely "infect" the rest of the Middle east dictatorships with revolution when their success becomes apparent over the lies of liberals. We have freed 50 million people from the oppression of dictatorships and religious extremism and given them a chance to develop into a productive, free society... Just because some of us are disappointed in the progress made by the Bush administration during the last 8 years... is no reason to hand off the reins of this wagon train to the party that directly and openly opposes virtually everything this nation stands for... Obama really screwed up by not picking Hillary for his running mate...because of personal issues with her... she was the strongest one running... Joe Biden has proven over and over that he is a baffoon... his statements and actions over the last two days only proving it more... Nobody wanted Joe Biden when he was running for president!... why in the world would Obama decide that he would be a good choice to defeat the republicans? That Obama decision is just one more example that he is NOT ready to lead. Obama has allowed John McCain to steal the thunder of picking a woman with leadership credentials to balance the Republican ticket... and turned the tables against himself and the democratic party, â?¦and hopefully has doomed this attempt to advance the socialist agenda of the party. Okay, my fingers are tired and I have to get back to work! I WORK, and vote REPUBLICAN, because the nation canâ??t afford for everyone to be on welfare! :D <SOAP BOX MODE OFF> :icon107: |
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They know this is still a bit too racist a country to elect a black man. Sad, but true. They know Obama therefore can't win. So, they saved Hiltlery for next time and threw Biden under the locomotive. |
Wow! It sounds like a couple of you guys are just mad at Rush, Why it,s almost Blasphemous for you to talk about a Man who has already told you that he has a BRAIN on loan from GODDD. you both should be thankful to hear the stright truth from higher up.
David, your right they are going to save Hilda Beast for next time, all they will have to do is dust her off and put on some Fresh Lip stick. ALL IN FUN! |
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The more they attack Palin the more capable she appears to be. This may well backfire on the Left as everyone watches her measure up to the pressure.
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She did way better than I had expected in the debate. Interesting enough, they talked about homosexual marriage, but moderator did not ask any questions on gun rights.
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Good to see you blokes are passionate about your politics and there are a diversity of views even among gun owners . I will be over at the end of November, shortly after the election, be interesting to see who you have elected !
Sarah P is certainly my kind of girl , but when she starts talking glibly about war with Russia , the hackles start going up ! |
Here negatives are popping through the roof. I do not feel that running a town the size of 7000 people and a state that has the population of a med. sized us city for less than 2 years are qualifications to run the country. I also feel that her radical Christian beliefs are very scary for some one who would have so much power. A person who runs this country should be unbiased about any religion. Religion has to take a back seat to the running of the country. She excites the base because she is so biased about Christianity. She also had a African witch hunter who ran a woman out of her home after he persecuted her for being a witch. WOW that is just out and out crazy and has no place in modern society. As far as the radical people who say that this country was founded on Christianity, all I can say is they have not idea what the history of this country is all about.
[Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_] "That God cannot lie, is no advantage to your argument, because it is no proof that priests can not, or that the Bible does not." [The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9 p. 134] "The NT, compared with the Old, is like a farce of one act..." [_The Age of Reason_, Thomas Paine, p. 153] "There are matters in the Bible, said to be done by the express commandment of God, that are shocking to humanity and to every idea we have of moral justice....". [Thomas Paine] "..but the Bible is such a book of lies and contradictions there is no knowing which part to believe or whether any..." [_The Age of Reason_, Thomas Paine, p. 104] "As to the book called the Bible, it is blasphemy to call it the Word of God. It is a book of lies and contradictions, and a history of bad times and bad men. There are but a few good characters in the whole book." [Thomas Paine, Letter to William Duane, April 23, 1806] "I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church." [Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason] "The story of Jesus Christ appearing after he was dead is the story of an apparition, such as timid imaginations can always create in vision, and credulity believe. Stories of this kind had been told of the assassination of Julius Caesar..." [Thomas Paine] "What is it the Bible teaches us? - raping, cruelty, and murder. What is it the New Testament teaches us? - to believe that the Almighty committed debauchery with a woman engaged to be married, and the belief of this debauchery is called faith." [Thomas Paine] "There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness." [George Washington, address to Congress, 8 January, 1790] "In those parts of the world where learning and science have prevailed, miracles have ceased; but in those parts of it as are barbarous and ignorant, miracles are still in vogue." [Ethan Allen, Reason the Only Oracle of Man, pamphlet, 1784] "While we are under the tyranny of Priests [...] it will ever be their interest, to invalidate the law of nature and reason, in order to establish systems incompatible therewith." [Ethan Allen, _Reason_the_Only_Oracle_of_Man_] "The Bible is not my Book and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long complicated statements of Christian dogma." [Abraham Lincoln] "I am for liberty of conscience in its noblest, broadest, and highest sense. But I cannot give liberty of conscience to the pope and his followers, the papists, so long as they tell me, through all their councils, theologians, and canon laws that their conscience orders them to burn my wife, strangle my children, and cut my throat when they find their opportunity." [Abraham Lincoln] "My earlier views at the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." [Abraham Lincoln, letter to Judge J.S. Wakefield, after the death of Willie Lincoln] "It will not do to investigate the subject of religion too closely, as it is apt to lead to infidelity." [Abraham Lincoln, from "What Great Men Think Of Religion" by Ira Cardiff] "I am approached with the most opposite opinions and advice, and by religious men who are certain they represent the Divine will. ... I hope it will not be irreverent in me to say, that if it be probable that God would reveal his will to others, on a point so connected with my duty, it might be supposed he would reveal it directly to me." [Abraham Lincoln. Chapter 14 of Part 5 of *Six Historic Americans* by John Ramsburg] "I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute- where no Catholic prelate would tell the president (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishoners for whom to vote--where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference--and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the president who might appoint him or the people who might elect him." [President John F. Kennedy] "I would suggest the taxation of all property equally whether church or corporation." [Ulysses S. Grant (1822-1885)] "If not an absolute atheist, he had no belief in a future existence. All his ideas of obligation or retribution were bounded by the present life." [President John Quincy Adams on Thomas Jefferson, 1831] "The Christian God is a being of terrific character -- cruel, vindictive, capricious, and unjust." [Thomas Jefferson, _Jefferson Bible_] "If the obstacles of bigotry and priestcraft can be surmounted, we may hope that common sense will suffice to do everything else." [Thomas Jefferson] "I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature." [Thomas Jefferson] "He is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong." [Thomas Jefferson] "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." [Thomas Jefferson] "If we could believe that [Jesus]...countenanced the follies, falsehoods and charlatanisms which his biographers father on him, ...the conclusion would be irresistible...that he was an imposter." [Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) 3rd president of the U.S.] "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State." [Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association] "All persons shall have full and free liberty of religious opinion; nor shall any be compelled to frequent or maintain any religious institution." [Thomas Jefferson, 1776] "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just." [Thomas Jefferson] "...difference of opinion is advantageous in religion. The several sects perform the office of a common censor over each other. Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth." [Thomas Jefferson, "Notes on the State of Virginia [1781-1785]"] "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man." |
And your reference for the following bit of drivel??
"She excites the base because she is so biased about Christianity. She also had a African witch hunter who ran a woman out of her home after he persecuted her for being a witch." Was the witch hunter African or was he a hunter of African witches? Did he run a woman out of Palin's home for being a witch? Or did he run a woman out of that woman's home after he persecuted Palin for being a witch? Reading your quotes I am reminded of some graffiti scraweled on a wall at my university: "God is dead" Nietzsche, 1875 "Nietzsche is dead" God, 1900 And, at least Palin has experience at running something, other than away from giving a straight answer. I believe she will let you keep your Lugers, if you have one. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid |
You forgot to add the Ohhh Yahhh. LOL When I get responces like yours it is vindication of my argument. Thanks.
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Care to answer the question? Where is your reference?
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I take it you can not or do not wish to look up and verify the quotes I listed above? Very lazy of you. They are plastered all over the web, in many publications from Richard Dawkins to Carl Sagan. You will not find them listed among your pastor Haggie though. He is to busy having god send hurricanes to NOLA.
Here are just a few of the sights that list the quotes. That the founding fathers were atheist is arguable except for maybe Thomas Paine who wrote Common Sense, and was called by Teddy Roosevelt "that dirty little atheist" Which shows the intolerance of Christians. I have talked with people like you before, No amount of evidence will keep you from believing in talking snakes, boats with all the creatures of the world on it, and a man living in the belly of a big fish for 3 days. Your religion is based of faith. Look the word up, faith is to believe without evidence. Be happy to do that if you like. But do not try to pawn off that you have some kind of moral high ground based on anything less. You have nothing, notta, zilch, Zero!!! There is not one shred of evidence to support the GOD of the bible. Just because the bible writers have a city that is not known and we dig it up is not proving that the Christ walked on water, turned it to wine, or raised the dead. No more than because we have found the lost city of Troy, that Medusa turned men to stone with a gaze, or the Ulysses fought Poseidon. You do not even ask the first grade simple questions about your book [bible], How did all the fresh water fish survive if the world was covered by salt water? or Vis versa if it was fresh water? If Joseph was the descendent of David the king, and it was prophesied that this blood line would produce the Christ, and Jesus was born of the "Virgin" Mary, how could this be held true? Is he than a "false" Christ? Not to mention the whole "the earth was created in 6 24 hour days" POOP. PUNN intended. Then you have the 4 gospels that no one even knows who wrote them, they were attributed, and have glaring discrepancy between them. You could write a book and many have on the problems and contradictions in the bible. But like I said if you want to believe in myth, that is your purgative, just do not pass it off as anything but to others who do not drink the Kool-Aid with you. http://www.errantskeptics.org/Quotes_by_Presidents.htm http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolve..._jefferson.htm http://nobeliefs.com/jefferson.htm http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffma.../Jefferson.htm http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/.../jefferson.htm http://www.wonderfulatheistsofcfl.org/Quotes.htm http://listverse.com/religion/top-15...mous-atheists/ http://struggle07.wordpress.com/2008...amin-franklin/ http://moizkhan.com/blog/2007/12/07/...non-believers/ http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyame...s/commonsense/ |
Gentlemen, this thread has degraded into the level of personal attacks on religious beliefs... Opinions on the existence of God are one thing, but attacks on other members are not tolerated.
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