1937 S/42 Luger
 

Hello.. I have my fathers 1937 S/42 luger that I would like to sell for my mother.

I used to use this years ago to target shoot just for fun. But have note fired it in about 20years. while we had it.. maybe about 100 rounds were fired if that

It has all matching serial numbers the gun in very very nice shape was kept in a cloth bag.

so were looking to sell it.. and will offer it first to this group


if you would like to call.. our number is at work
215-887-8982 located in PA

I hope the photos load. if not I will try again in the morning

Bill, welcome to the forum. I can help you with pictures if you'd like.


A price is required to post in the for sale section, please add a price, as we are a classifieds and not an auction ;)


ed

weimar_lugers@comcast.net

Luger for sale
 

I am interested in the Luger you have for sale.

Spartacus38@charter.net

Thank you,

Bob

Bill
I'll call you in the morning.
Morris

Bill, I live in Paoli, so very close to you. I would be happy to appraise what you have. I can call to discuss. Thanks, Tom

Wow.. more replies than I expected.. I will try and get the photos up in a while.. I am trying to bring myself up to speed as to the value.. I wish I was going to keep the gun.. I did enjoy it as a teen with my dad.. My mother needs to go into a retirement home.. and needs the money.. we have other guns also.. not many but.. here is a basic list.. 38cal snub nose think a police cheif special.. in nice shape.. purchased about 22yrs ago.. is registered.. a what I think is a 25cal Beretta hand gun in nice shape.. a german mauser I think 32 cal.. and a 45cal colt semi automatic.. not in good shape.. as collectable but in working order.



my real intrest in selling is the luger. I will try and come up with a price by friday.. I am trying to read posts here to understand the value

Bill
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I hope the photos look ok.. I have more photos at work. and forgot to bring them home.

Bill

here are some photos

Hi Bill. The luger seems to be reblued, which really hurts the collector value. Still you might find someone looking for a nice shooter. The Allenown gun show is next weekend and it is a great show. Lots of dealers who would take everything, but NOT at top dollar. Still , if you want quick cash, I would take them to the show and find the table of Art Burtis. He is honest, straight shooter, and carries cash. I;m happy to meet with you in King of Prussia if you want and can give you my honest assessment. whitemant@aol.com.
Good luck

Bill, I have dealt with Art and he is a good guy.

In addition, Tom can be trusted completly also.



Ed

Thank you for the information about being reblued.. If it was I do not know anything about it.. All I know is when my dad found it in my grandfathers personal items.. he took it to a local gun smith to have it checked out to fire.. later we reloaded our own amunition on the other guns but this gun My dad wanted to leave as is.. I hope your wrong.. lol.. what are tell tail signs to look for that might show an novice that it was.. is there a simple way to tell

I posted something wrong.. My dad was in the service the luger he got some how thru the service I think he bought if off of a service man that came back from overseas.
my father was a staff photographer for some top brass but was here in the states. To my knowledge the gun was never worked on in anyway. Rebluing or any repair. I will double check with other family members..


the mauser and the beretta were in my grandfathers estate.. I will check with my mother if she knows more history on the luger and post on friday..

Thanks all

The Luger does not look reblued to me.

Bob,

From your pictures, your Luger's serial number is 5309r. The small parts (trigger, take down lever, safety, ...) were straw colored until 1500t. Yours looks blued.

Tracy

Clifton, I didn't think it looked reblued to me either at first, and I thought the strawed parts looked worn, but strawed to me...

But, other folks know these 1937's than I do and some of it that should be strawed, look blued...


Ed

Ed,

After looking at it again, maybe it is strawed.

strawed.. not sure what that means... again.. novice here

Again, this Luger is not a reblued gun, it has original finish.

thanks clifton. I have a question.. what could I take a photo of .. or how close.. and of what area.. or part.. that could prove this.. I have a good digital camera.. I can shoot more photos in the morning..

Al, do it from slightly different angles and lighting from several angles.


On my laptop, which I am on right now, it looks more reblued, but on my main computer, it looked original to me.


Ed

ok.. will do will post more photos in the morning.. Thank you one and all..

ok.. and a last question.. if it is original.. and not blued what is it worth.. Again.. I have taken it apart.. all numbers are the same.. other than the clip do you have a range

1937 S/42's are pretty common, for an uncommon gun :)
"If" it hasn't been reblued, and "If" the serial numbers all match, then it becomes dependent on the remaining finish. Some of your pictures make the finish look a little tarnished, as though there's been some rust here or there. Hopefully your next set of pictures will clarify this. That could be the deciding factor on a final price. very rough ballpark until all these variables are known would be, in my less than expert opinion somewhere between $1000 and $1600 compared to other S/42's I've seen lately. As reference, a pistol that is reblued, or mismatched has little collectors value and is refered to as a "shooter" and they top out at about a grand, with some pretty nice ones selling for about $800-$900. So being as yours is all matching, it's worth at least a bit more than that (if it turns out to have the original finish). From what the pictures show, all other things being taken into account I'd say it's probably closer to the $1200-$1400 range. Early S/42's with the strawed componants (Strawing was a sort of controlled heat discoloration of the metal into a goldish color in lieu of blueing) generally bring in a bit higher price than their all blued bretheren, but the finish on yours doesn't look all that perfect (not trying to be mean, just honest) from these pictures, and so I think a frank and honest price would be somewhere around $1300 +/-
But as you can see, I'm a bit of a newbie here, and this is only a very semi educated guess.

One lasts thing I'd like to add, is that you really, really, REALLY should do what you can to keep it. It's a family heirloom, and once it's gone, and the money pays a bill here or a car payment there, it's gone. FOREVER. Your Dad held onto it for all these years, so it clearly meant something to him. And you mentioned the fun you had shooting it with him, those memories will always be a little more "real" when you hold this piece of steel and wood. Without it they will just be memories, and even the best memories fade.
I don't know your age, or if you have any children, but even if you do, and they aren't interested in it, who's to say their kids may not one day be? Or theirs? The value on these things is only going up. The Third Reich is out of business, and won't be making any more of these. It is a family link to the most significant historical event of the last 100 years or more. And you, your kids, your grandkids can hold it, even shoot it. When it's gone, that's it...You will always be able to get more money, but you won't be able to get another "Father's" Luger. Sell the others. Keep this one, it's the one which seems to be the jewel of the collection.

"You will always be able to get more money, but you won't be able to get another "Father's" Luger. Sell the others. Keep this one, it's the one which seems to be the jewel of the collection."

Truer words were never spoken.

Tom A

Bill, I based my comment about the gun being reblued on the fact that the safety lever, trigger and take down lever all look blued and they should be straw colored. However, as people have pointed out, it is hard to tell from photos. I would love to be wrong and to find out your gun is all original, but the blued small parts is not a good sign in my opinion. As always..... of course I could be wrong.. :)

Hi Tom.. I understand its hard to tell by photos.. I will be shooting a few more with the gun unassembled within the hour.. I talked to my brother this morning and he remembers the story that a nurse that my dad knew. Served over seas.. and that a german officer was shot was taken into a field hospital She found it hidden in his clothing and took it away from the injured officer. later she gave it to my father. Just to get any type of guns out of her house. I will confirm that with my mom.. if she knows. . Did an earlier post say there is a gun show.. in Allentown pa? this weekend?

Bill,

Get 2007 " The blue book of gun values" and you will figure out the price.

clifton

Well.. I took it apart.. Funny I still rememberd how to do it.. and The gun has been blued.. or at least some of the moving componets and the flat spring on the one side seem more bluish under better light.. the barrell and body of the gun do not.. but looking close like the pins they look blue. Again I am only a novice. its funny the knerelled grip to pull back does not look blued..just some smaller parts pins, flat plate/spring? on one side I will still get better photos for you to see

Bill

Bill..

I'm with Clifton on this one. I don't think it's a reblue.

Ron

I will chip in as another Ron that does not think it's a reblue.

well I hope you guys are correct here are some other photos..
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some of the darker photos show what I am talking about those parts have a blueish tint

Al, then my guess from last night is probably close to what it is worth.

The circled area was the one I thought looked blue-ish, now it looks fine....


Keep me in mind for the colt ;)

Looks "Good" to me too! :)

Vern

Did a price ever get posted for this one...?

Here are some similar offerings at Simpson LTD...keep in mind they usually are at the high-end of retail :

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...sort=2a&page=3

The folks at FGS have a similar offering as well on this page :

http://www.fgsfirearms.com/lugers.ph...&subcat=Mauser

I have moved this from the for sale section to the new colelctors part of the forum, once a price has been decided on, then it can be palced there.

These pictures make it look a lot nicer than your previous pictures. That should make it worth quite a bit more.

Bill,

The gun's overall finish is called "blue"...usually a rust blue (steam and chemical rusting process) or a dipped, salt blue process (a chemical immersion process with various chemicals at high temps)...depending on maker. year, model.

The "blue" you see on some of your gun's smaller parts are fire-blued...a heat treatment process which leaves a much brighter blue...

Strawed (or the golden colored) small parts are also done with a heat treament, only, process...similar to the fire-blue.

Looks like an honest (pre-hot salt) rust blued '37 S/42 to me... wish I could afford to buy it from you.

Sorry I was so late! Looks good to me too!! FWIW!!:)

If you want an auction . Put in on GunBroker.com or AuctionArms.com .

no i am not looking to auction it off.. the people in this group have been fair with me.. I promised I would put it up here first. The problem is now . other family members have found out about it.. and causing confusion as to sell it or not and or what is a fair market price.. that is not a question for the group. I understand your just giving me information to help us sell it fairly..