artillery rig on ebay
 

i have listed a very nice artillery luger holster ,stock ,striping tool and very rare early cleaning rod with the brass end on ebay please take a look
ebay# 220144013149

the "attaching strap" on the stock is strange...

Christian, Which strap? Toe strap? Boot strap? Stock closure strap? They all look good to me from what I can see.

Nick, I take it the stock boot is missing? You show no photo's of the loading tool or the cleaning rod on Ebay....Nor do you make mention of them in your auction? Listed seperately?

Found the rod, tool?


Jerry Burney

hello jerry
the boot is missing
the stock/holster strap is different to the norm being straight but it matches the rest of the leather work and looks factory made could it be an early variation?
i will add a photo to the auction

i have added photos of the strap to the auction page but here are the photos
oppinions?

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Nick, It is certainly old..I have never seen such a variation on a Military stock/Holster rig. The brass washers and screws look right...

Christian, You have a very sharp eye my French Friend!

Jerry Burney

the washers and screws are the same as those used on my other rigs
i think its original to the rig??

thank you Jerry !...:))

Nick, I can say the washers look to be original but I have strong reservations about the stock strap itself. Even the very early ones I have observed have a totally different shape. The shape has never changed to the best of my knowledge. The normal original shape was for a reason, to accomodate the passage of the carry strap thru the stock it is thinner and expands to allow the closure strap to be threaded thru a keeper before it is affixed to the stud.
The only difference I have observed is not in the shape but in how the keeper strap is affixed. On very early straps, stock, toe and boot, they stitched them. Later they used hand hammered rivets with a small washer.
Unless someone more knowledgable than myself claims otherwise I would not hang my hat on this being anything but an old and adequate attachment but dertainly not original to this fine military holster and stock example.
Jerry Burney

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if the strap is not factory it has been made by a good leather worker and is not a field modification could it be commercial?

Nick, Depending on your deffinition of commercial..it almost has to be! It is not Military and this rig IS military.

One thing I have been meaning to ask..The stud on this..Are there any casting lines along both sides? Look carefully at this stud closeup. Some were cast and some were machined. You should be able to tell by looking close.
Jerry Burney

jerry
the stud has been machined
this rig came with a 1915 dated dwm that had sadly been deactivated
the owner kept the gun to remind him of the freedoms we once had

Nick, The machined stud indicates earlier manufacture although that is not much of an indicator. I am assuming the underside of the stud is leather covered?
Yes, Too bad about England and their foolishness about deactivation. I want to believe this will never happen here...God Bless our founding Fathers and their foresight with the Constitution. At least when Hitlery's minions come to inforce deactivation I will be fighting for something I believe in. Jerry Burney

The holster and stock sold for $3,350.00 to mastersilh( 0 )

I happen to know this Gentleman and there is a fascinating story behind this. I wish I could share it. While not told to me with any expectation of confidence I hesitate to divulge it...Jerry Burney

I can remember when you could buy a nice car for that price and still have $1350 in your pocket .

Your OK Jerry,
I ended up winning the artillery rig on eBay. It was
sort of by default. With a minute to go I placed a
final bid of 2,010.00. I added to many zeros and the
bid registered as $20,010.00! I could not change it
and realized I was at the total mercy of the other
bidder for the final price. I was embarrassed and had
a sick feeling watching the clock tick down. I bet the
other guy was frantic trying to outbid me. To save
face with Nick I went ahead and sent him a pay pal
payment. I did not sleep good last night.

hello dow
the same thing happened to me i bid $140,000 instead of $1400 on a japanese sword and ended up paying $14,000!
nick

Holy Cow!!! I have embarrassed at auctions by going crazy and ignoring my mental set bid price. So I know how both of you feel. But its something we all should be careful of. But the holster and all the accessories aren't a total loss. (I hope that that helps sooth your feelings a little). Luger collecting is wrought with many pit holes and few people have escaped making expensive mistakes.
Big Norm
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If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.

i posted dows stock the day his e-check had cleared returned the extra $25 he sent by mistake and only charged $30 for postage when it cost me $35 with extra insurance answered all his emails within a day of recieving them and he leaves me negative feedback i guess there is no pleasing some people

Nick,
Would you like me to post all the saved emails to prove what a liar you are?

dow
if you want
this is pure buyer remorse .yes i accedently sent you 2 different amounts for postage $30 and $25 ,it actually cost $35.87, but instead of querying this you paid both amounts. i went away for a couple of days ,as you do, and on my return repaid the second amount you sent ,$25, through paypal
i thought you were a gentleman i did not warrant the negative feedback its just you feeling bad about the purchase as you stated in an email to me
pete was happy with his tool as will be the buyer of the cleaning rod when the transaction is concluded
sorry you feel this way
nick

hmmmmm, I think I'll close this for now, might be something y'all can take off-line...


Ed