Raffle for Katrina relief efforts!
 

Hereâ??s your chance!

Mauser re-intro Parabellum!

Model 06/73 (German style grip frame) with 100 mm barrel chambered for the 9 mm Parabellum. Unfired, with matching box, extra magazine, Luger tool, and cleaning rod. Does not have the ownerâ??s manual or test target. The box is somewhat shopworn as is usual with these. The action has been cycled by hand and the rear of the frame bears the little mark that the toggle tail leaves. otherwise perfect. Serial number 11.0131XX

$20 for a chance. Six chances for $100. If the total does not exceed $1200 the raffle will be canceled and money refunded or sent on to the relief effort as the participant may indicate. Entry will be closed when the total reaches $2400.

85% of the total will go to human relief, 15% will go to animal relief, both in the Luger Forumâ??s name.

I have not made a final decision on the specific organizations as of yet and am somewhat open to suggestions. Leading candidate at the moment for human relief is the Salvation Army.

Ed Tinker has offered to help with the nuts and bolts of running this on the forum. (Nowâ??s the time to jump in Ed!) We may also post this on Jan Sillâ??s Luger forum and the S&W forum. (Stay tuned folks, there may be a S&W up for raffle shortly.)

I will plan to draw a name October 15th, or sooner if the upper limit is reached before October 12th.

Cost of shipping from this end will come out of the proceeds. Please check your local and state laws regarding receipt of this pistol. (Last time I checked, the German style frames were NOT on the C&R list, it will have to go to a regular dealer FFL.)

Send check or money order to me:

Noel Cotter
269 Brentwood Drive NE
Cedar Rapids, Iowa 52402-1623

Noel, this sounds like a great idea!

I'll be sending a check to you!!


Ed

First participant!
 

OK guys! We have our first participant! Pony up! If I can give away a Luger, you can cough up $20! It's for a good cause!

Noel, Sounds Noble and generous of you to contribute. I am sending my 20 bucks. Send it to the relief effort whatever happens. I know many have contributed in many ways but it's a small sum and will help.

Old Dutch proverb, "many hands make for light work"

Thanks for pitching in...Jerry Burney

I applaud your initiative in helping our brothers and sisters. After returning from relief efforts in New Orleans and actually flying over the entire devastated area picking up survivors and whatever was left of their belongings (mostly a change of clothes and some wet pictures), I will have to say that we should be able to at least afford $20 to help those MUCH less fortunate. I suggest that instead of stopping at $2400, do it for 10 days and try to collect as much as possible. I will get my check out today as well. God Bless you all for your charities in times of uncertainty.
Thanks, Tony S.
â??SEMPER PARATUSâ?�

A very generous fellow collector for sure. Hopefully everyone has already contributed somehow, either through workplace, Red Cross, etc.
A check goes out to you tomorrow.

If we can just keep Ed away from the stove, I believe LF can do a worthy
project here.....check to follow, Tony to you, bless you and all GC who always put other first.

$2400 upper limit.
 

I would certainly be glad to see this raise more than $2400. How ever, I have already promised to close as soon as the total goes past $2400 in order to entice participants with a better chance to win. If the general consensus on the forum is that there should be no upper limit or some higher limit, I am willing to go along with that.

My vote, run it for as long as feasible.

Noel, My check is in an envelope and will go out in tomorrow's mail.

Having run an auction on this and Jan Stills Forum I know from experience it needs an adjustment or tweeking from time to time. It will come to you as time goes on, hope you have plenty of time!

Tony is under the misconception ( I think ) that the auction is for ten days or less...I believe you said it would close no later than Oct. 15 and sooner if $2400 was raised. Thanks for all who can help, Jerry Burney

My check for $100 will be posted tomorrow.

Sorry for confusing you and I with my last suggestion, I need more coffee. So, what I was trying to say is to run it for as long as practical and collect as much as possible.
Tony S.
"SEMPER PARATUS"

Check going out today.

Ron

Thanks for doing this. My check for six is in the mail today

S&W added to the raffle!
 

S&W fans!

Hereâ??s the other half of this raffle guys!

S&W Model 25-5 with 6 inch barrel, chambered for the venerable 45 Colt.

This revolver is accompanied by the matching box, manual, â??sight adjustment toolâ?� (Itâ??s a screwdriver to the unwashed herd.), cleaning rod & mop. The cylinder has been turned. Itâ??s other wise NIB and unfired.

Minimum total for the raffle to go forward will be $600. Chances will be $10 each or $50 for six. The money from this one will be donated in the name of the S&W forum. Other terms are the same as for the Luger. If you want chances for both on one check, indicate how much for each.

I expect the drawing will be around the middle of October.

BTW: I am known as â??unspellableâ?� at the Luger Forum and most other forums I participate in. At the S&W forum the software would not accept my yahoo address for some reason so I used my dogâ??s internet handle, â??The Maxoâ?�. (Youâ??d be amazed at the offers he gets!)

Check is in the mail. Bill

No�«l, sent you a $100, can you give me 3 on the lugger and the rest on the S&W?


Ed

Noel,
Check is in the mail. Put me down for 5 tickets on the Luger. Thx again, as already said by many others for taking the time to donate to and run this raffle.
Lyn

Update
 

So far all pledges have been from this forum except for Ed Tinker who has repeated his offer here over on Jan Still's forum, so I guess I have to count that as coming from here. Most of them have been for the Luger.

I'm not well known on Jan Still's forum.

I'm a little surprised that so far I've had no replies from the S&W Forum. That's a very active forum. Wondering if they think it's on the up & up. I've been active on that forum for some time, once bought a revolver cylinder from one of the guys.

Here on this forum, I've purchased John's CD, a pistol from LugerDoc and sold a pistol to Mauro. All fine as far as it goes, but I'm sure it doesn't hold a candle to the number of transactions LugerDoc, Thor, et al, have been involved in.

Noel, Don't be discouraged. Beat your drum, be vocal. Explain yourself and keep the postings on the forefront. These things are not easy but You can do it! Jerry Burney

update
 

I now have one pledge from the S&W forum for the Luger. The S&W is a fairly desirable one, you'd think the S&W guys would go for it.

Noel:
Check for $20. in the mail. Good luck on your raffle.

Regards Ken D

good News, Bad News
 

We now have at least $500 pledged on the Luger. (Several of you said you were sending a check, but not for how much, so I put you down for $20 for the time being.) So we have a pretty good start here, we are 42% of the way to the minimum.

On the negative side, the raffle offer has been removed from the S&W forum on grounds the forum owner does not know me that well. Guess I have to accept his decison on that. (His forum handle is Parabellum, with a handle like that I would think he would be seen around here. Do we have a member list somewhere?) I expected the majority of the subscriptions for the S&W to come from that forum, so now I'm a little dubious about whether we will make the lower limit on the S&W. We only have $40 pledged so far. (Guess I shouldn't sob and moan, if the subscription falls short I get to keep my pretty M25 for the cost of the postage it takes to return the money.) But we'll leave it open for a little while and see what happens.



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Noel, I thought if the money didn't reach your reserve it would be sent to the Hurricane relief anyway?
Wish you all the best...You should keep posting on Jan Stills forum to keep it in active topics, I am sure there are some fellows that do not know about this yet and would want a ticket. Jerry Burney

If the money does not reach the reserve it will be either refunded or sent on to the relief funds. Subscriber's option.

and it's just a $100 buck-a-roos from me, wanted to get the ball rolling :D I have also found that some folks will send money but not tell you, so hopefully that will work out too...

but like Jerry said, the reminding makes a differnce, I think I "topped" it on both forums, if not, I will.

I am sitting in Vancouver BC, will go on the ship tomorrow afternoon :)


Ed

update
 

I ame are cancling the S&W deal due to lack of interest.

Meanwhile, $520 in checks for the Luger have arrived. Let's get this up to $1200 folks, and have a real raffle.

If you don't have room in your safe for an unfired Luger, it's time you got another safe.

My check is being prepared to head your way.

OK - I'll reply - as I need a minty Luger.....

As many know - I run a number of gun and auto sites. For that, I'm totally selfish - and run only sites that interest me.. For example - I run Rennlist which has about 34000 users and 250000 site visitors a day. Since I drive Porsches, and have rebuilt them for 25+ years as my hobby - and since I collect Lugers, hence - this site. And since I like PP & PPK/P 38s - the P 38 Forum...

On Rennlist - we have raised over $98,000 in this copied post and another drive to date - and the post below is replicated across all the sub-forums. I'm proud of that - and the folks who have donated (this is just one of the copies) Jen and I kicked it off with a $100 pledge over a week ago:

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...d.php?t=226398

So - here is the deal.....

I work my butt off to pay for this site each day, as I work 3 full time jobs. I have no commercial bent. I, like other LugerForum Patrons - dig deep to keep it going each and every day. And it is worth it - at least to me. So.....

Unspellable - you keep this going. It's worth the effort. If you end up "short" on the raffle price after you close it - you simply e-mail me and I'll buy the remaining tickets to put it over the $1200 edge. I just want to be in the drawing....

Thanks for what you are doing....

John D.

unspellable

I hope I am not too late to get in on this, I am sending you a check for $20 for the Luger raffle.

John D, Ed T, or John S, why don't you put a sticky on this to keep it at the top of the listing? I know a lot of member would respond but some of them are like me and don't look at all the listings each day.

Thanks and keep up the good work,
Bob M.

It is now a "sticky", i was traveling and at 40 cents a minute, I was not on the interent very often!


Ed

Sorry, I have been outta touch a few days working on other aspects of homeland security...

MY paypal payment should reach you today if you will take paypal... Please post here if you will... and the email address where it can be sent.

John, I'm not set up for Pay Pal. I caught my long distance company double dipping in my checking account, so having been once burned, I balked at letting Pay Pal have access. Also figured it was a bit much since they would already have access to my credit card account. I get a bit paranoid about this sort of thing.

No problem, I will drop a check in the mail today.

Update
 

I have now received checks totaling $540 for the raffle. John Sabato says he is sending one, so that will bring it up to at least $560.

John D. has been kind enough to say that he will buy how ever many chances it takes to get this over the minumum, so it looks like we are good for go.

Come on guys! You can find a place for an unfired Luger. Don't let John D. hog ALL the chances. Besides, this is for charity, we want to push it above $1200. I'd buy a chance myself, except that they say you should avoid the appearance of impropriety.

I have one check from California. Will california allow this pistol to come into the state? I'm not completely up to speed on Califronia regs.

Noel, I am putting a check in the mail tomorrow. Will you be selling the S and W chances on this forum also? That is my all time favorite caliber!

The S&W forum will not allow posting this raffle on their site. I expected the main body of subscribers for the S&W raffle to come from there. So the S&W raffle has been cancled for lack of interest.

I have received a query about receipts or numbers for checks sent in. As far as the numbers are concerned, it is my intention to wait until all names have been put on the list and then assign a random number from the Excel RAND() function, sort the list on that number so that I have the names in random order, and then number them 1,2,3,4, etc. I will then use RAND() to pick one of the numbers. Sort of a double random selection if you follow me.

The alternative would be to assign numbers more or less i nthe order I have received the checks and then we have numbers sooner.

More to the point for now, is the idea of a receipt. The easy thing for me to do would be to post the list here rather than send out individual mailings, and if any body spots an omission they can yell. The drawback to this is there may be some one who wishes to preserve their privacy.

What's the general opinion on this?

For those that desire privacy or anonymity... you can just put ANON-01, ANON-02 etc. for the names on the list you post and then notifiy the individuals which ANON-XX they are...

While the assignment of random numbers in an Excel spreadsheet sound good to me, I think most of the participants would be more comfortable with a disinterested party like your wife or child (if you have either) selecting the numbers out of a hat...

Just my $0.02

keep up the good work.

To date, no one has stated they do or don't want anonymity. The question has not arisen until now. If no one objects before hand, I'll just post a list here in a day or so.

As for having the wife draw a number, it had occurred to me I could put the numbers inside empty 7.65 mm Parabellum cases and have her draw one from the lot. It would be fitting to use Parabellum brass. It's my wife's hand you see in Mauro's pictures of Mauser 29/70 #19 if you've seen a hand in the pictures.

We have a daughter in Arizona and one at the opposite end of Iowa so they are not handy to do the drawing.