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While watching TV last night, I saw a little snippet of the next episode of the sitcom 'Desperate Housewives'. The snippet was fast but I am sure that I saw one of these women being shown how to shoot a Luger. I am not sure that this will qualify as a movie or a comment by our resident movie critic, Thor :cool:, , but past movies on TV generally have generated much discussion on this forum, if they involve Lugers.
Big Norm

Hi,

If you get a change check out Roman Polanski's recent 'The Pianist'. It shows the use of a Luger in a rather bad setting, but it makes you kinda think about some darker parts of it's history.

Big Norm,

I thought the same thing. But it was shown so fast that I was not sure.

Steve

Hot women, really stupid show. It's for those liberal idiotic "socker mom's" out there.

Steve,
you are right, the snipet was fast and I was half way to the refrigerator for adult refreshments when it came on the tube. But I thought that I caught the flash of a Luger. I could be wrong. I promise to never be wrong again.

Minigun,
yah, hot women and a stupid sitcom. But nobody says that we are not supposed to like hot women. Its also a good lead in to 'Boston Legal' which I really find funny. Some hot women there too, but one guy there (Dennis Crains favorite lawyer) has a dead pan facial expression that just cracks me up.
Big Norm

Mr. G.Van Vlimmeren,
I received your email but I am not certain if my reply was returned to you properly. Your being from another country/continent probably would not make you aware of American television entertainment programs.

Unfortuately, what you say is true. I did not see the movie that you suggested but, since it won many awards, maybe I missed an interesting movie.

I think that the Lugerforum has a list of American movies that have the Luger pistol in them. The list contains a star rating system that signifies how much the movie displays the Luger pistol and not the acting, message or quality of the script. This list was maintained by Thor and contains some movies that are not as sad as the one that you suggested.

The TV show that I suggested is a light, comedy, soap opera about four modern American housewives in a modern subdivision and has nothing to do with war. The short advertisement part that I saw is where a man (possibly an undercover policeman) takes his girl friend to a shooting range to just shoot at some targets. This TV show is very popular in America and really has very little to do with the shooting of people. To tell the truth, since this was an advertisement for the show, it caught me off guard and I could not tell if the gun used was really a Luger. I normally don't pay much attention to advertisements. That is when I get something out of the refrigerator in preparation for the real entertainment. :biggulp:
Big Norm

Hi Norm,

Over here, we get swamped by US-made shows. The Netherlands are one of only a few countries where shows are aired in their untranslated versions with subtitles added. Mainly because most Dutch can understand English pretty well and also because we completely dislike translated versions like the Germans and French get (kinda like watching 'Friends' in Mexican I guess).

We get a lot of US sitcoms over here, just haven't heard of that one yet. I agree that it's quite a weird setting in which to find a Luger. I must say I got hooked on Thor's list and try to spot and remember every Luger appearance I see on TV.

That's what I love about you guys...

You watch "Desperate Housewives" and press your nose against the T.V. looking for a luger :roflmao: .

But at least now I have a plausible excuse for the Mrs. when I start to go blind :D .

Cheers :cheers: ,

Jack

STrider and others have helped with this listing, I dont think it is up to date.
LUGERS IN MOVIES

All Quiet on the Western Front (1931 version)
Anatomy of a Murder ***
Austin Powers--Man of Mystery
Band of Brothers **
Battleground
Blues Brothers
Charade ***
Cobb
Cross of Iron**
Days of Glory
The Deadly Tower
Desert Rats *
The Detective
The English Patient
Escape from Sorbibor
Fatherland
The First Deadly Sin
For Your Eyes Only
Gorky Park ***
The Great Escape
The Great Race
Guns of Navarone
Hellâ??s Angels
The Heroes of Telemark
Hornetâ??s Nest
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade ***
Kellyâ??s Heroes
The Land that Time Forgot
The Maltese Falcon
Marines, Letâ??s Go ***
Night of the Fox ***
The Notorious Landlady ***
Of Mice and Men
Mother Night
Public Enemy No. One
Rogue Male
Schindlerâ??s List ***
Sergeant York ***
Shadow of the Vampire **
Shining Through
Shoot at the Devil***
Slaughterhouse Five
Son of Frankenstein
Stalingrad
Tales of the Gun--The Luger (History Channel) ***
Teenagers from Outer Space**
Tobruk ***
Triple Cross
Twilight Zone--The Movie ***
The Valachi Papers
Von Ryanâ??s Express ***
Wall Street ***
Where Eagles Dare ***
***-------------High Luger presence, such as integral to plot, closeups, much footage, or good scene with Luger, etc.
**---------------Minor Luger presence
*-----------------Mere hint of Luger, such as brief glimpse in battlefield, wearing of P-08 holster, etc.
No astericks---Not yet rated

Not a movie, but was watching Antique Road Show the other day and in the opening credits, showed a guy with a luger being cocked back, one of those plastic ties put in it. I was pleased, as that meant they were showing it as a collectable, and not as a "weapon"....

Ed

I thot it was a P38. Al

The one I saw was definately a P08, they showed it and the guy told the man who brought it in, "pull the toggle back". No other info on it, just a quick show of it,

Ed

Looks like I need new glasses, a hearing aid and some more books...Al

Al,
well, it wasn't a P-38. But it is what we called a pimp gun on the old forum. Thats what General Patton called a gun with white plastic grips. He felt that ivory grips on his pistols to be more classy though. I am a collector so I still think that any Luger with anything but original grips is a pimp Luger.

Did you hear that lame excuse they gave for the white grips? Some German officers in WW11 ordered their Lugers with white grips. BS!! The producers of the show where too cheap to get a good Luger with real grips.

But I was wrong too. I thought that the women involved was the brunet and not the red head. Good shooting though. They shot the guys MIDDLE toe off. Right down the center.:roflmao:
Big Norm

BN, You can tell that red headed Brie is a real expert, knowing that mother of pearl grips only came on the officer's model luger. This TV coverage ought to bring out a bunch of this variation at up coming shows. TH

Actually it was the idiot boyfriend who volunteered the mother-of-pearl/officer connection.

I think the produces/writers knew exactly what they were doing here. In the world of Hollywood prop houses it would be easy to rent a gun with the proper grips (a 'special' gun with pearl grips might actually cost more). It struck me that someone involved with the production knew enough about Lugers to play the pearl handles for maximum cheeziness, with the hope that a viewer who shared the knowledge would get an additonal laugh from the "in" joke.

--Dwight

Thor A movie that needs to be added to your list is "Never So Few". It is one of my favorite WWII movies. It is set in the CBI (China Burma India) theater. Steve McQeen carries a luger in a tanker style chest holster. It would rate 3 stars on your luger visability scale and 5(of 5 possible) as a movie. Thanks Bob Benson Ps Thanksfor the spell check!!!!!!!!

Did any of you get to see CSI on Thursday night? There was a Luger shown on that show that a vet had. What was interesting was that before the investigatiors went to talk to the vet they had found a 9mm casing. Nothing exciting about that but when they were looking at the stamp on it to check the manufacturer it grabbed my atttention. Stamped on it real nice and pretty were the letters DWM. I had a feeling they would be using a Luger as the vets weapon. I guess we can add this show to the list.

Sid.

Sid, True about the mention on CSI but did you notice the glaring error? The so called expert tech said this casing was from WW2! I don't think so...Jerry Burney

Hi Jerry,
I did notice that. I even told the wife that she was wrong and that the casing was a lot older than that. It would be nice to get a picture of that casing to show here.
Sid.

Lugerdoc,
just guessing, but I bet that that pharmacist ends up becoming a stalker and Brie uses the gun on him somehow. She is NRA, so if she can get his middle toe without too much effort, then she could get him between the eyes later.
Big Norm

Dwight,
I don't think that the Actors Guild allows real guns on a set. This rule goes back to James Cagney. Before him, they used real guns, real ammo and real sharp shooters. But I don't know what the rules are. This Luger probably came out of a prop warehouse. I don't believe that we actually saw this Luger fire. We just heard the sound.
Big Norm

Big Norm,

I don't know about TV but I was an extra in a movie several years ago (The General's Daughter) and the M16s were real, although they may have been deactivated in some manner. KFS

Karl,
real guns may be used. I don't know what the rule or safety measures that may have to be taken. I remember that, maybe two years ago, the son of a famous kick boxer shot himself while making a kung fo movie. Somebody slip a real bullet into his gun.

I also remember that James Cagney lead a strike once protesting that live ammo was used in making cowboy and gangster movies. This caused some changes in the movie business. In his days, sharp shooters were used to break pots and things on movie sets to add realizm during movie shoot outs. Those little explosive devices that are now used did not exist in those days. Now this was in the 1920's.

So maybe real guns are used. Maybe some weapons are deactivated. I have to admit that during the making of the movie "Sargant York" a Luger was used because a Colt 1911 could not handle blanks. The real Sargant York actually used a 1911 to shoot the bad guy in the real war.

Maybe simeone on this forum can shed some light on the current rules regarding this subject.
Big Norm

I Believe...
 

You are thinking of Brandon Lee, son of famous Kung Fu master Bruce Lee. No kick boxing master. The process by which the live round got into the gun was really convoluted and would almost be a plot for a mystery movie in itself...

Tor; you might want to add "Tarzan and Jane" to the movie list also..

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...jane_luger.jpg
..note the rare right-side safety :eek:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...ane_luger2.jpg
..custom oversized extractor + stainless steel barrel :thumbup:

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...ger3_copy1.jpg

Hi all,

Not exactly a Luger scene, but in the fairly recent movie "Hart's War" there is a part where Bruce Willis' character picks up and very quickly assembles the Nazi commandant's field stripped P-38. He then points it at the commandant, and the ensuing conversation is quite clever. Check it out!

DougT

Morgan,
I am so happy to hear from you again. I was worried that your Luger pistol would freeze and break into little pieces when you tried to shoot it in that frozen land that you vacation in. I tried to find the islands that you play in on some tourist maps that my lady friend in Borheim sent to me but these maps are not very good and I was unsuccessful. Personally, if I were to move to someplace other than where I live, I would want to move to someplace where the women walk around in bikinis and short skirts all day long. It helps me to keep my heart healthy by making in beat a lot more.(HEE! HEE!). A person has to think of their health.
Norm

Law and Order, as well...
 

A recent episode of Law and Order featured talk of a Luger being used to kill someone, but it was not shown. My favorite is an episode of Perry Mason where a Luger was part of the case. Perry proved a woman didn't commit the crime when he proved she couldn't **** the Luger...

Big Norm,
The Luger survived the Svalbard winter :) I fired it a few times when the temperature was around -35 'C, with very thin oil, it worked quite well. When the temperature was lower than that, I didn't try it.. The narrow finger guard, makes it hard to use gloves. Cold metal against skinn is not the best combination;) I know the germans sometimes used a special winter trigger, like this one on a Mauser M/98 http://my.qxl.no/accdb/viewItem.asp?IDI=18058327 , but probably not on the Lugers..
(http://my.qxl.no/accdb/viewItem.asp?IDI=18144196 <- M1 Garand)

It's always nice to see women walk around in bikinis :) When a women in more arctic places are undressing.. it's almost as exciting as opening a x-mas gift, with a chance to get disappointed;)

That winter trigger is so simple a solution. It's like cruise control: "Why didn't I think of that???"

Morgan,
minus 35 degrees. With all due respects to your obvious manhood, your crazy to be in that cold of a place. You say it even gets colder than that? Svalbard does not sound like a fun place. I don't want to go someplace where I don't have to put ice cubes in my high balls. You take care, you hear. I don't want to hear about a nice gentleman like you catching a cold or something in Svalbard. Better to go into southern Norway and pay the taxes.
With great respect, Big Norm

Big Norm, last January I spent a week at Tidal River on Wilson's Promontory and four young ladies at a camp near ours spent the week dressed as you describe. Nothing personal but Morgan can keep his minus 35!

Regarding Lugers in movies, there's a good scene in the ANZACs mini-series where Paul Hogan's character goes "ratting" with an Arty.

John-Melb,
I have a Norwegian tourist book that talks a little bit about Svalbard. Norway is a narrow country that goes way past the Arctic Circle and Svalbard is w-a-a-y out in the Atlantic ocean and well separated from Norway. It is a l-o-o-n-g swim to either Norway or Iceland. I don't see how a polar bear could possibly swim there but they are there. I suspect that minus 35 degrees might seem like summer at times up there during the winter. But you know, the Minnesota and Dakota folks face some pretty bad winters too. Personally, I dream of Florida without its hurricanes, crockidaters and sink holes.
Big Norm

Two Points, real weapons are used very often in movies and TV.
Case in point was a few years ago when a bonehead actor was in bed for a scene. Before cameras rolled he was playing with a wheel gun and put it up to his head and fired. The wadding at close range from the blank made a very fine hole thru his cranium, He died a few hours later.
The second point is a missing movie from the list.
Possibly, IMHO the best WW2 film made, John Frankenheimers, "The Train"
Starring Burt Lancaster. If you have never seen it make the effort, it is based on a real situation, and was made extremely well, right down to the actual blowing up of a FULL RAIL YARD. The french wanted to reguage the yard so let em blow it up for cash.
Larry

Yes, people have been killed/hurt from blanks. The danger is very real.

Playing with guns is a bozo no-no!

Big Norm, impressive that you actually have a Norwegian tourist book!
A few years ago, I bought a car in NY and ended up in SF two months later, had a great vacation! Many beautiful places and some great memories from that trip.
btw. the polar bears are great swimmers, but they dont swim all the way to norway.. there are no polar bears here;)

Mr. Kane. , How goes the hurt? While your laid up give us another tale of that cold wilderness. Thanks, Gill.

Gill, my hand is good again now:) Thanks for the interest.
Wish I had a heroic story where I broke my wrist fighting a bear, but it was only me trying to drive a snowmobile in the dark;) Can see if can upload some pictures when I get the chance

Thanks, I didn't get a tour book, but I did look it up. I was very isolated and looked like a great place to be. I am on the other side of the spectrum. Hot, need a big insulated cup of iced tea. Thanks for trying to get pictures for our viewing pleasure. Glad your feeling better. Gill