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SE NAPCA Convention...
Just returned from a most enjoyable and educational trip to the SE NAPCA convention in Chattanooga, TN this past weekend.
NAPCA members and fellow Luger Forum "nuts" Tom Armstrong, Derek Seltzer, and Leo Lavalle presented a world class Navy luger collection and Tom was the speaker at the dinner event; giving all after dinner quite an informed history lesson of the German Navy and their use of Navy lugers in the Imperial, Weimar, and 3rd. Reich eras. Besides the Navy event (which was 1st. class), the highlights of the convention for me were : 1. Meeting other Luger Forum members such as Tom, Derek, and Leo for the first time; in addition to meeting Tom Beasley and Frank Houser..also LF members. Tom and I must have held and inspected every luger in the place. And the Navy Cabal sort of adopted me and let me tend their tables when they went elsewhere (which gave me quite a bit of time with each of the many Navy lugers on their tables... :D ), 2. The warm welcome to this Californian by all SE NAPCA members; especially Freddy Greer. Tom Knox, and Jim Cate. 3. Finding the SE NAPCA folks to be the most knowledgable, helpful, and trusting gun nuts around. I say trusting as you can see in the photos...all members with displays routinely left their tables unattended during the 2-day event and there was never a worry about an item "walking away"... 4. A chance for members and gun owners alike to inspect guns on the tables, even do some detailed take-downs, and even having some heated discussion about whether a gun "was right" or not... 5. Being able to see a world-class Japanese pistol collection and an equally impressive Browning HP collection. 6. Having a chance to meet NAPCA member, Bob Beers from Alabama who brought his 1910 chamber-dated Erfurt pistol. Bob was very kind and willing to let folks take detailed looks of this very unique Luger # 49. 7. Having a chance to see a 1943 SIG prototype pistol (serial # 26) made by Bern in their attempts to work out the design which finally lead to the M1949 Sig pistol that replaced the Swiss luger as Ordnance sidearm. 8. Picking up a very nice condition CZ-24 and holster...! Here are a few photos of the convention : 1st. photo is of SE NAPCA chairmen Jim Cate on the left and Freddy Greer on the right. Notice the firearm within reach...thoses guys held down the entry door most of the time : <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_1.jpg.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_1.jpg.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_2.jpg.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_2.jpg.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_3.jpg.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_3.jpg.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_4.jpg.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_4.jpg.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> More photos in the next posting... |
The following 5 photos show some the combined collections of Tom, Derek, and Leo in the German Navy realm of collecting.
You cannot imagine how many German Navy Lugers and other fine accessories could fit on 32 linear feet of display tables. Once you see some many honest and authentic Navy lugers spanning 3 Luger eras, the boosted ones pretty easily stand out like a sore thumb... <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_5.jpg.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_5.jpg.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_6.jpg.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_6.jpg.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_7.jpg.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_7.jpg.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_8.jpg.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_8.jpg.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_9.jpg.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/senapca_9.jpg.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> |
WOW Pete! Thanks for the armchair gun show! Really appreciate the photo's...Sure would have liked to go there. Meet all the folks and see hundreds of thousands worth of guns and accoutrements all in one place. I'm jealous! I'll get there someday. Jerry Burney
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Pete,
Ditto to what Jerry said! I appreciate you taking the time to share some great insights and photos of the NAPCA convention. Like Jerry said I will make it there someday. Thanks Lloyd in Vegas |
Hi Jerry...trust me you were there, examples of you craftmanship were shown and your email address was handed out many times.
Leo |
Leo, That's the rumor going round! Would like to show up in person and see all that great stuff! I guess you could say my reputation precedes me....Jerry Burney
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Pete....I need your email address
Leo |
Hey Leo !
Here you go : "pebbink@pacbell.net"... Speaking of need...I REALLY need to buy your beautiful BUG proofed 1906 Comm. Navy...!!! :D Since it has nothing to do with Imperial Germany, I think it a mis-fit in your otherwise wonderful collection...(kidding but not...). Nice to meet you and the other Cabal members at the show... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> |
Pete,
If Leo sells you that gun, then you *obviously* need the commercial Navy stock that goes with it. Hmmmmm...I think I have a spare one... Tom A. |
Just outstanding Pete!
And Tom, I'm speechless! Oh, and can you say, "set as background" :) :D :) Ed |
Pete........it was a pleasure meeting you in person.you are a credit to the Luger collecting fraterenity..I will email you.
Leo |
Ditto to all of the above! Like a kid in a candy store--WOW! I had hot flashes for the first two hours! I can't thank all of the collectors and NAPCA members enough for this once in a lifetime experience! The stuff dreams are made of--. It was a pleasure to meet everyone--just a great bunch of folks. Thanks to all!! Frank
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Holy Cow!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> So that where all the navy holsters in existence went to. No wonder I can't find one. :confused: I sure do wish that people with even more pictures show them. I wish even more that I could have been there.
Big Norm <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> |
A real mind-blowing series of pictures, Pete. You must have seen many dry mouths from all the salivating! Did you get any pictures of that 1910 dated Erfurt?
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One of the Cabal members took some detailed shots of our exhibit; I will send to one of the smart picture posting guys so they can be seen by all.
Tom A |
I would be glad to post them for you Tom! Thor340@aol.com
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Let's try this again.
<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d1_b.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d1_b.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d2_b.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d2_b.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d3_b.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d3_b.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d4_b.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d4_b.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> ADMIN: Thumbed to make a bit smaller, ebt |
I obviously need help with the picture size.
How do I make them smaller? Tom |
Tom, I took care of it, you are doing great! You can change the img for thumb, but once thumbed, they get all screwed up if you go back and edit the picture.
Wonderful pictures, I wish I could have been there. Ed |
Ed,
I have a bunch more. How do I solve the problem of size? Thanks, Tom |
More Photos from NAPCA.
<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d5_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d5_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d6_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d6_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d7_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d7_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d8_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d8_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d9_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d9_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d10_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_d10_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> |
Some Navies.
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Aaaarrrrggghh!! Warning, Danger, Danger Will Robinson...sensory overload...uncontrollable lust...severe envy!!! Help me <img border="0" alt="[crying]" title="" src="graemlins/crying.gif" />
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More Photos
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<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p8_b.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p8_b.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p7_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p7_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p12_b.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p12_b.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> |
GREAT PHOTOS! Thanks for posting them...
In case you missed Ed's post above... Once you have posted the photos, you can use the edit tool (Paper&Pencil Icon on the post you want to change the photos from large to thumbnails) and change the "img" and "/img" tags to be "thumb" and "/thumb" (leaving the squared brackets of course) and then use the Preview Post button to see how it will look... Once you have the post looking like you want it... then and ONLY THEN perform the actual edit by clicking on the Edit Post button... CAVEAT Once you do this, you CAN'T go back and re-edit the post... because the code that implements the thumbnails will change all the syntax and then the thumbnail feature will be screwed up along with the post...SO do your best to get it right the first time... One way to save yourself some grief is to copy and paste the edit syntax of the message post (at the time the photos are appearing large) into NotePad so that if you accidently screw up the message post you can recover it by replacing it completely... I hope that was helpful and not too confusing... |
Hey Tom Beasley...
Great job posting the photos. I was planning to do so for you today...but it is much better that you have broken the "barrier" and done so, yourself. Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> |
Hi Pete;. John, in spite of your good intentions and directions, I screwed it up somehow. I'll just repost the photos. Thanks
This is the sage, Tom Armstrong, at work. <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p1_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p1_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p2_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p2_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p3_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p3_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p4_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p4_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p5_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/napca_p5_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> |
If everyone is still awake, here's some more.
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<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/derek__leo_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/derek__leo_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>
Derek & Leo <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/jim__harrison_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/jim__harrison_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> Jim Kemp & Harrison Rackley <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/jims_d3_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/jims_d3_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> Jim's display of NAMBU's <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/jims_d_2_b_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/jims_d_2_b_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> More NAMBU's |
Tom, my fingers are getting tired changing these to smaller! :D Just kidding, I just go in, copy them, then drop it into word, do a search and replace for img to thumb... <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />
Baby Nambus' ooohhhhhh <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> :cool: Ed |
One of my favorite Swiss guns at the show...thanks to Tom B. for the photo I was able to zoom up on :
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/swisssigproto.jpg Regards, Pete... |
All,
Here is a list of *most* of the significant items we displayed at the Cabal Navy Display: Item: Marine Pistol 1904 Details: SN: 132 of estimated 300 produced. An exceptionally rare piece. Note the presence of Crown M proof marks and â??First Issue Alteredâ? thumb safety. Originally produced and issued without such markings and a First Issue type safety, this is evidence that SN 132, at some time in its 99 year life, was returned to the arsenal for repair or re-work. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong ?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬ ?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬ ?¬?¬?¬?¬?¬ Item: Marine Pistol 1904 (1906 First Issue Altered) Full Rig. Details: SN 9407a, Property Number W.K. 9198; Holster marked L Anchor F which is Naval Zeppelin Unit (Luft Flotte). A very rare property mark. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol 1904 (1908 Navy) Details: SN 2364b From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol 1904 (1906 First Issue Altered) Details: SN 6728a; Property Number I.T.D.1526 (First Torpedo Division) The First and Second Torpedo Divisions are the most common tactical unit markings observed. Werft Williamshafen is the most common marking. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong _______________________________________________ Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1906 First Issue Altered) Details: SN 130a, Property Number W.K.8586 (Werft Kiel) From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol 1904 (First Issue Altered) Details: SN 7721; Property Number W.K. 2464 (Werft Kiel). Weimar-era conversion to 4â? barrel. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (Limited Procurement P-08 Commercial) Details: SN 7049; Property Number N.10 (Nordsee Fleet-Williamshaven )Caliber 7.65. A very rare piece due to the non-standard caliber and commercial proof. This gun is listed in Jan Stillâ??s book, Weimar Lugers (p.204) From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M 1904(P-08 Navy) Details: SN 9476j; Property Number N 632 (Nordsee fleet-Williamshaven) A Weimar Navy piece with an unusual J suffix; this is earlier than most reported. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (P-08 Navy) Details: SN 9349; Property Number N.623 (Nordsee Fleet-Williamshaven) A Weimar Navy piece. Weimar Navy guns are far rarer than their Imperial Navy predecessors and Kriegsmarine successors. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Pistol â??08 Details: SN 5114a; Property Number O.3651. (Ostsee Fleet-Kiel) An imperial Army issue pistol re-issued to the Weimar Navy. Most Weimar Navy pieces were re-issues of Imperial Army and Navy equipment. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (P-08 Navy) Details: SN 4797a; Property Number:O.3835 (Ostsee Fleet-Kiel)A code 42 (Mauser) dated 1940. Unusual to find Kriegsmarine pieces in this condition. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (P-08 Navy) Details: SN 388m; Property Number N.3620. (Nordsee Fleet-Williamshaven) A Code 42 (Mauser) dated 1938. Unusual to find Nordsee property numbers on front grip strap.Typically grip strap markings on the front strap were from Ostsee Flotte Headquarters, Kiel and ran lengthwise along the long axis of the grip. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1906 First Issue Altered) Details: SN 4606; Property Number S.B. 526. (Schutzpolezi Berlin). A Naval piece that was heavily modified and saw subsequent service in the Berlin Police. Not on display is the matching SN police-type holster that came with this piece. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (P-08 Navy) Details: SN 5651c; Property Number N.4338 (Nordsee Fleet-Williamshaven) A Code 42 (Mauser) Navy. WHAT ELSE???DATE? From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol 06/73 Details: SN 011/250. A Mauser Navy commemorative; SN 11 of 250 produced. These lovely pieces were accompanied by a copy of Luger, by John Walter and were packaged in a high grade leather valise. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1916 Dated Type 1914) Details: SN 559; This gun was captured from the IRA in 1917 and remained in Irish Government custody until sold in 1992. The IRA was supported by the German Government with financial and arms aid throughout 1914-1918. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1906 First Issue Altered) Details: SN 4438; Property Number W.W. 758 (Werft Wilamshafen); 1/22,000 From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: P-08 G-Date Rig Details: SN 4713a; Property Number O.2081 (Ostsee Fleet-Kiel) A Mauser made 1935 production Kriegsmarine pistol. Thought to be a unique variation with the Droop Eagle inscribed on the side frame and corresponds to the droop eagle on the holster face. From Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (P-08 Limited Procurement Commercial) Details: SN 60804, Crown M and Crown N proofs; No Stock Lug. A very rare Naval limited procurement piece.1 of 300 procured. Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1906 First Issue Altered) Details: SN 108; Property Number U.11/2. This gun was issued to the XO of U-Boat U-11. He was ashore when the U-11 was lost on a training mission off the Belgian coast on Sept 9, 1914 due to a mine. U-boat guns are extremely rare, possibly the rarest of all unit marked guns. Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1917 Dated Type 1914) Rig Details: SN 3383; Property Number W.K. 17024.This is a classic â??as issuedâ? rig complete with all components matching and three original matching magazines. It is unusual to find such a rig today. Additionally, this rig is unusual in that it is unit marked; unit marking was officially suspended in November 1916. Collection of: Tom Armstrong ______________________________________________ Item: P-08 G-Date Details: SN: 1382b; Property Number ???. This is a 1935 Mauser produced Kriegsmarine piece in excellent condition. Note the Droop eagle proof on inside of the grip strap; this was discontinued mid 1935. Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: P-08 K-Date Rig Details: SN 981; Property Number O.1714 This is a 1934 Mauser manufactured Kriegsmarine piece with two matching magazines and a matching serialed holster. It is believed that the piece was re-barrelled at some point during its service life. K-Date Navy pieces are highly sought and very rare. Estimated production: 300. Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: M-1911 Boarding Cutlass Details: No SN; marked with Imperial Navy Crown M; Simpson Maker Mark and Property Number I.T.D.933 (First Torpedo Division, Weapon 933). Of 5642 pieces made, most were issued to the Torpedo, U-boat and Matrosen (Naval Infantry) Divisions. These pieces are very rare and seldom seen. Collection of: Derek Seltzer. Item: Imperial Navy Magazine Pouch Details: Crown M marked; maker marked Gustav Rheinhardt-Berlin, Unit Marked M.A.111.27 (Matrosen Artillery) Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: Imperial Navy Sewing Kit Details: Named to Sailor Disse; Unit Marked 11. M.A. 4, (Matrosen Artillery); dated 1915. These were personal issue to individual sailors and are seldom found intact. Collection of: Derek Seltzer. Item: Assortment of Imperial Navy Holsters Details: Type 1 and Type 2 Navy Holsters; some as issued; some altered. Leather from this era in collector condition is seldom encountered and is much rarer than the pistols. Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: Early Weimar Transition Holster Details: This is a very rare early Weimar Navy proofed holster in 6â? barrel length. This was produced and issued during the period between the establishment of the Reichsmarine and the Versailles Commission prohibition of the long barreled Luger. Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1920 DWM ) Rig Details: SN 2512m; Property number: N.71 (Nordsee fleet-Williamshaven) A very rare matching rig in 7.65 mm with the holster serialed to the pistol and also marked 7.65mm. and having Weimar Anchor M proof. Estimated production, 50. These complete rigs are very hard to find. Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: P-08 Details: Army issue DWM manufactured 1916 dated piece re-issued to Weimar Navy. Property Marked N.205 (Nordsee Fleet-Williamshafen) Pistol and Magazine both are Anchor M proofed and are matching serial numbers. Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1906 First Issue) Details: SN 8862; Property Numbered I.T.D. 612 (First Torpedo Division, Weapon 612). A combat veteran in collector condition. Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1916 Dated Type 1914) Details: SN 7390a; Property Number N.1819. This cut down version retains the original 100/200 Meter sight and does not have a Weimar proof; it may be reasonably surmised that the piece was in stores until it was issued to the Kreigsmarine. Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: Marine Pistols M1904 (First Issue) Details: SN 5124; 5125. Property Numbers: II S.B. 32, II S.B. 33. These are the only know consecutively serialed and property numbered guns in existence. These were found separately years apart. Neither has a matching magazine. These pistols were used in combat in Flanders. Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: Marine Pistol M1904 ( 1906 First Issue Altered) Rig Details: SN 3828a; Property number U.A. 57. (Unterseeboot Abteilung{Submarine Section}) Weapon 57. With Type 2 holster and navy proofed cleaning rod. This is an extremely rare ensemble and a joy for a collector to find. U.A. marked guns are exceptionally rare. Collection of: L.A.Lavallee Item: Marine Pistol M 1904 (1906 First Issue) Rig Details: SN 2280; Property Number: GOUV.KIAU.87 (Government of Kiaochow, weapon 87). A rare marking from Germanyâ??s days as a colonial power in China. A very collectable pistol with great history behind it. Collection of: L.A.Lavallee Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1906 First Issue Altered) Details: SN 598; Property Number II.T.D. 2412 . (Second Torpedo Division, Weapon 2412.) A very nice II Torpedo Division Piece. Collection of: L.A.Lavallee Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1906 First Issue Altered) Rig Details: SN 900a; Property Number W.K. 9943 (Werft Kiel, weapon 943). A fully matched Baltic Sea fleet rig with all accessories. Collection of: L.A.Lavallee Item: 1906 Navy Commercial Details: SN 51355; B.U.G. proofed. A very desirable and rare gun . The piece is accompanied by a commercial H.H. Heiser holster. Collection of: L.A.Lavallee Item: Model 1906 Siamese Navy Detail: SN 99; This is a very rare piece and has been authenticated by author Sam Costanzo as being Siamese. 1 of 15 known. Collection of: L.A. Lavallee Item: Marine pistol M1904 (1908 Navy) Detail: SN 3604b; with correct Type 2 holster. The Type 2 holsters were officially authorized in 1916 and were intended for use by the Seebatallions fighting in Flanders. It is likely that there were many â??unauthorizedâ? Type 2 holsters prior to that date. Collection of: L.A.Lavallee Item: Commercial 1914 Pattern Navy Detail: SN 74209; with commercial style magazine. This is a seldom seen variant and a very fine collectorâ??s piece. Collection of: L.A. Lavallee Item: LP-08 Rig Detail: SN 1605; Property Number 1551 N (Nordsee Fleet-Williamshaven) with M Anchor Weimar Navy Property Mark. Stock is marked O. 347 and does not match the pistol. Accompanying is a Crown M marked sight adjustment tool and a 32 round trammel magazine. An Army LP-08 that was reissued to the Weimar Navy and married up with residue from both Imperial Navy and Weimar Navy era accessories, as was the rule during these austere times. Collection of: L.A.Lavallee Item: Marine Pistol M1904 (1918 Dated Type 1914) Detail. SN 1262. This is a very controversial piece. Based on extensive research and after examination by numerous collectors as well as author Sam Costanzo, it is believed to be an assemblage of previously manufactured parts that was finished in 1918. A very unusual gun that never fails to draw interest and speculation. Collection of: L.A.Lavallee _____________________________________________ Item: Imperial Navy Officers Dagger, Pattern 1890 Detail: This dagger is an exceptionally fine example of a very expensive, private purchase piece. Owned by Prince Waldemar, nephew to the Kaiser, it has an exquisite â??Maidenâ??s Hairâ? Damascus steel blade in the rare extra long configuration. The balance of the dagger is gold plating over sterling silver and ivory.The royal cipher is prominent on the scabbard. The dagger is not maker marked, suggesting that it was custom made. Prince Waldemar served as an administrative officer. Collection of: Tom Armstrong _____________________________________________ Item: Imperial Navy Officers Dagger, Pattern 1890 Detail: This is a very nice Imperial Officers dagger with ivory grips. It is thought that the silver finish signifies the original ownerâ??s assignment to the administration corps. Collection of: L.A.Lavallee _____________________________________________ Item: Reichsmarine Officers Dagger, Pattern 1919 Detail: This is considered an ultra-rare dagger for several reasons. First, itâ??s association with the Weimar Navy; which consisted of only 15,000 people total, less than 900 officers (By way of comparison, in 1919, there were 220,000 German policemen). Second, the Pattern 1919, with its distinctive black grip and scabbard, was exceptionally unpopular with German Naval officers. It was so unpopular that in 1921, a new dagger was authorized which replaced the black scabbard with a traditional gilt scabbard. The vast majority of officers simply purchased new scabbards and discarded the black one. This is one of the very few that survived intact. Collection of: Tom Armstrong ______________________________________________ Item: Commodoreâ??s Fender Pennants Detail: These pennants were flown on the fenders of the Kriegsmarine commodore who was commanding officer of the port of Ghent, Belgium. They were captured by a Canadian infantryman. Collection of: Tom Armstrong _____________________________________________ Item: Kriegsmarine Torpedo Timing Pocketwatch Detail: The timing of a torpedoâ??s run from launch to detonation was very important in determining range and accuracy. Each officer on a U-boat was issued a pocket watch such as this to use for such purposes in the course of a combat cruise. This watch still works well. Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: Imperial Navy Marching Compass Detail: Used by Matrosen Division and Seebattalions Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: Kreigsmarine Officers Dress Dagger Detail: This is a very unusual Kreigsmarine dagger. Itâ??s distinctive chased scabbard indicates purchase by an officer who was of some means as this was an extra cost option. Additionally, the unique color, configuration and design of the grip again suggest someone who was intent on making an impression. The piece has been examined by several noted dagger experts who suggest that it was possibly worn for solemn occasions such as funerals. Collection of: Tom Armstrong _______________________________________________ Item: Kriegsmarine Dagger Detail: This Kriegsmarine dagger is named to a German seaman named Rose; it has a diamond inset into the swastika and is also marked as coming from the U-758. This item is undergoing research in an attempt to identify the seaman and authenticate the piece. Collection of: Derek Seltzer Item: Navy Luger Cleaning Rods Detail: This grouping provides the opportunity to compare genuine rods with replicas. The replicas are tagged with colored tape. Note the subtle but obvious differences between the genuine articles and the replicas. This difference is most pronounced in the wooden handles. Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Kriegsmarine marked K-98 bayonet Detail: This bayonet is property marked to both the Nordsee Flotte and to U-boat U-758. Submarines were equipped with K-98 rifles as well as a variety of other small arms for boarding party use. This is one such item. Collection of: Derek Seltzer _____________________________________________ Item: Imperial Navy Seamanâ??s Scrap Book Detail: This is an exceptionally rare scrapbook assembled by a German sailor who served both on the Deutschland and the U-17. It contains truly amazing photographs depicting naval combat during W.W.I. Some of the action shots are phenomenal, especially those taken below decks. We know of no comparable naval photograph record from W.W.I. Collection of: Tom Armstrong Item: Kriegsmarine Seamanâ??s Scrapbook Detail: This scrapbook was assembled by a German seaman who was an ardent nazi and served in the SA prior to his naval service. The pictures inside are particularly interesting as they detail the visit of Hitler to the ship and the promotion of Doenitz to Grossadmiral. Doenitzâ??s autograph is also in this intriguing photograph album. Collection of: Tom Armstrong ________________________________________________ Item: Mutzenbanden (Cap Tallies) Detail: These cap tallies were worn around the body of the â??Donald Duckâ? style hats by Imperial, Weimar and Kreigsmarine sailors. They served to build esprit dâ??corps and added a dash of color to the uniform. Generally, those in Gold were of sea-going units and those in silver were administrative, land-based units or the administrative component of a sea-going unit. This traditional hat garb still survives in todayâ??s Bundesmarine. Collection of: Tom Armstrong |
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