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CAP Black 03-05-2017 08:07 PM

New acqusistion 1908 from isolation
 
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My new beauty. She is in unbelievable condition. Matching mag with a ding in the wood and an extra magazine. The stock is authentic and unnumbered. The stock has all of the ingredients of Navy disk and markings. The bluing is hard to imagine. The collector I purchased from obtained from the veteran who had it for 30 years or so and then he had it the remainder of years - kept in his safe. Not displayed in public until now. I believe the pouch is also authentic. A friend has traded with the seller for many years. I am seeking values; as usual. Just to know for now. I will do better photos as time allows.

DonVoigt 03-05-2017 10:52 PM

Did you not just buy it? or have you had it since 2008?
Or is it serial 2008?

Curss 03-06-2017 12:30 AM

Beautiful looking gun. Can't wait to see up close pictures!

Norme 03-06-2017 03:23 AM

Hi Jack,
We would like to comment on your gun but need better photos, all I can tell from the one you have posted is yes, it's a 1908 Navy (long frame, no grip safety). How about sharp close-ups of the barrel serial number, the stock disc and the back side of the magazine pouch?
Regards, Norm

mrerick 03-06-2017 09:24 AM

I changed the heading for you... Marc

George Anderson 03-06-2017 09:58 AM

I have some doubts about the stock and mag pouch.

spartacus38 03-06-2017 11:50 AM

I also have some doubts about the stock.
I would like to see pics of the right side of the attaching iron.
Bob

lugerholsterrepair 03-06-2017 04:10 PM

Stock is not one I would buy.

CAP Black 03-06-2017 04:45 PM

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I see nothing on the attaching iron (blued part), but on (say) the top of the board is stamped
O N..28; on the side where the metal disk is this is stamped in the wood: 01 and on the disk is stamped: 0.1 VV. That is what I can offer until I do pictures.
I don't know what is needed for a true board but that is what I see.
The man from whom I purchased had sold many items to Ralph Shaddick (sp) but said he would never buy from him.
Added a not so good picture of rear of pouch.

Jack

George Anderson 03-07-2017 08:05 AM

The mag pouch is Portugese and the stock looks like an Odin repro made maple rather than walnut.

CAP Black 03-07-2017 02:16 PM

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CAP Black 03-07-2017 02:48 PM

Now I am asking for opinions of what I have and what they are worth? I don't anything about Odin's but the harware and fit and finish on the stock look superb and German to me. But I don't have the years of experience that you guys have.
Thanks
Jack

rhuff 03-07-2017 02:58 PM

It may just be my eyes, or the photo, but the "3" on the underside of the barrel looks "odd" to me, as though it is an overstamp. What does this number look like in person??

DonVoigt 03-07-2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CAP Black (Post 299874)
Now I am asking for opinions of what I have and what they are worth? I don't anything about Odin's but the harware and fit and finish on the stock look superb and German to me. But I don't have the years of experience that you guys have.
Thanks
Jack

Still need a few more pictures, the other side of the stock iron and the sides of the stock, and a close up of the iron disc and left side of the chamber..

Norme 03-07-2017 03:18 PM

Hi Jack,
Thanks for the extra photos. The gun looks just fine to me, the last 2 digits of the barrel serial look like the die bounced a little, but the halos look correct as does the halo effect on the witness mark. The matching mag looks correct also.
The magazine pouch, as George has said, is Portuguese and not Imperial Navy, and as such is worth a lot less than an original Navy. I don't know what to make of the stock, it's certainly not an original Navy. Is the disc brass or lacquered steel?
I don't know what you paid, but the gun and mag alone are quite valuable.
Regards, Norm

CAP Black 03-07-2017 03:24 PM

rhuff:
The 3 & 8 aren't perfectly lined up with the 22 in either position under the barrel but are the same font.
Jack

CAP Black 03-07-2017 03:44 PM

The disk appears to be brass to me.
Jack

Norme 03-07-2017 03:49 PM

Hi Jack,
If the disc is indeed brass than the stock is a repro.
Regards, Norm

lugerholsterrepair 03-07-2017 03:52 PM

Jackm The disk appears to be brass to me. See if a magnet sticks to it.

George Anderson 03-07-2017 04:15 PM

The stock is one made by or for Odin and is made of maple.

CAP Black 03-07-2017 05:44 PM

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A magnet does not stick. So I guess that settles it. I'll be in touch with the man that sold it to me. He is a long time friend of a friend and will make it good.
Thanks
Jack

CAP Black 03-07-2017 05:54 PM

What a bummer! All of my previous pictures went away?????????
Help
Jack

spartacus38 03-07-2017 05:59 PM

Worth:
Gun w one MM approx. 7000
Stock 200
Pouch 100
Bob

m1903a3 03-07-2017 07:49 PM

The pistol appears to be in fine condition. Easily worth Bob's $7,000 if it's all matching, and could fetch $8,000 in the right sale.

$300 for the stock and pouch is generous.

CAP Black 03-08-2017 03:41 PM

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Pics that are pertinent to the gun value. Re-entered as others were there and then they were gone.
The gun is in better than superb condition. It is all matching including the mag; which is banged up on both ears - on the wood. One can be seen in the picture. Only bluing is worn areas of grip straps. Strawing is say 60 %; No scratches, abrasions a slight amount of rust under the grips. It is a beautiful gun and has stood the test of time in remarkable shape. Grips appear to have the right amount of wear to solidify her age.
What is she worth.

wlyon 03-08-2017 04:11 PM

Cap
GT can fix that mag bottom. He has did 2 for me. Bill

CAP Black 03-08-2017 04:24 PM

Will that add to or take away from collectors' interest?
Thanks Bill.
Jack

Norme 03-08-2017 05:47 PM

Hi Jack,
Since the mag base doesn't have a crack that needs stabilizing I'd leave well enough alone.
Regards, Norm

DonVoigt 03-08-2017 09:02 PM

I would not mess with the magazine either; leave it original- any work would only raise questions about it. JMHO.

As to value, surely you know what you paid/traded/have in it; that is a known value basis.
You no doubt know that luger prices are all over the map and any single item depends not only on how "nice" it is- but where, when, how, and to whom it is sold!

CAP Black 03-08-2017 11:00 PM

I have wiped the oil and grime from the gun; inside and out. There was only gunk inside; no rust or missed bluing. Even the strawing is better than I first thought. The grip straps are good bluing and I would say the bluing is 98 %; strawing perhaps 75 %. Holster wear is only very slight.no scratches or bad areas.
It is indeed a real jewel of a gun. I would like to see a better Navy although there probably are some. I can only imagine and I can only hope to see one or own one. A few pics will come when I get the inside de-gunked.
Jack

wlyon 03-08-2017 11:15 PM

Cap
I seem to be in the minority on the mag. I will only say that when GT gets through with it you will not be able to tell it has been worked on. A beautiful luger like this deserves a decent looking mag. Bill

CAP Black 03-09-2017 09:08 AM

I am betwixt and between on repairing the mag.
Thanks
Jack


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