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Dwight Gruber 06-02-2003 05:46 AM

Lugers On Film
 
Its been awhile since this subject came up (well except for war movies of course)--I think it was on the old discussion board. Lots of new folks since then, and its due for a reminder.

I'm prompted to post this because American Movie Classics has been running the movie "Charade" in heavy rotation lately. In the climactic scene Walter Matthau chases Carey Grant and Audrey Hepburn, Luger in hand. The Luger plays prominently, two extended scenes and a gratuitous closeup.

--Dwight

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/charadecomp.jpg

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/charadeluger.jpg

Thor 06-02-2003 10:18 AM

Dwight, first, congrats on those excellent pictures, wow, those are just great! It has been talked about some (see list of movies in one of the posts, not all are War Movies) Thanks for sharing about CHARADE!!
Luger Movies #1 posting
Luger Movies #2 posting (TWO PAGES)

John Sabato 06-02-2003 11:57 AM

Do I see a screw slot in the hole of the left Toggle in the last photo posted by Dwight?

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/screwslottoggle.jpg

It appears that this may be some kind of movie prop instead of an actual Luger pistol!

panda 06-02-2003 12:21 PM

The luger looks secured too. Safety lever up.

Edward Tinker 06-02-2003 01:22 PM

I know you have seen this, from the Tales of the Gun series on the Luger, Gary Cooper using a Luger because the 1911 would not use blanks during shooting of the movie.

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Gary.jpg

mauro 06-02-2003 04:07 PM

Very interesting!!
Do you know if a LP08 was ever used in a movie?

Ciao

George Anderson 06-02-2003 05:54 PM

The film "ANZAC, The War Down Under" has extensive scenes where the Australians use captured LP08's and C96, both with stock, while on a trench raid.

John Sabato 06-02-2003 06:04 PM

There was an old (Black & White) Charlie Chan mystery movie that featured the use of an LP-08... I used to have a publicity photo showing the Luger, and the holster was on a table in the same scene, but I have been unable to find it... Anyone know the name of the movie? or have a copy of that photo?

sverre 06-02-2003 06:13 PM

john.
if you search for it at www.imdb.com youll find it.

sverre

George Anderson 06-02-2003 09:27 PM

Mauro, one more. "Ball of Fire" 1941 comedy with Gary Cooper and Barbara Stanwyck. End of the film features comic gangsters armed with LP08 and C96 which are fired full-auto. Lots of good shots of the pistols.

Johnny C. Kitchens 06-02-2003 10:42 PM

I see that the safety is up, but the sear block isn't up. Would that mean it is a newer (neuer) model???

ViggoG 06-02-2003 11:11 PM

Gentlemen, Everybody "Duck" <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />
Judging by the exposed rear portion of the sear,
THIS IS A P-08, AND ITS READY TO FIRE. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
The forward sloping sear cutout is the clue, here the Safety Sear Blocker is retracted to FIRE POSITION. <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
ViggoG

Dwight Gruber 06-03-2003 01:03 AM

...however, it does not look like it is "GELADEN"...

--Dwight

ViggoG 06-03-2003 01:42 AM

Dwight, :D
Ist das ein Entsafter den ich daĆ?? das Stecken von auf sehe? <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" />
ViggoG <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

G.W. Gill 06-03-2003 02:06 AM

J.S. "Charlie Chan At The Olympics" (1937) was on tonight. Lots of lugers. I talked throughout the movie as she read the Enquire.

Edward Tinker 06-03-2003 03:17 AM

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">I talked throughout the movie as she read the Enquire. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Keep them involved that is the ticket, let her read and say, yes honey every now and then!! :D

Dwight Gruber 06-03-2003 05:41 AM

Viggo,

Nein, Ich sehe ein Standardteil dumm Sicherung. Sehe auf diese Winkel hinter dem Abzugsstange. :D

--Dwight

ViggoG 06-04-2003 02:42 AM

Dwight,
This is what I see.
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/AP-08.jpg
A- Safety "Sear Block", "DOWN", Ready to Fire.
This is an "Old Model P-08 Sear" so #xx shows.
B- Safety Lever- - - - - - "UP" , Ready to Fire.
C- Extractor - - "UP" , Geladen , Ready to Fire.
ViggoG <img border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" title="" src="graemlins/drink.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />

G.W. Gill 06-04-2003 03:41 AM

Viggo & Ed, I don't know what would have been been more dangerous. Interrupting the Enquirer or looking at the wrong end of that luger.

Dwight Gruber 06-04-2003 05:24 AM

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by ViggoG:
<strong>Dwight,
This is what I see.

A- Safety "Sear Block", "DOWN", Ready to Fire.
This is an "Old Model P-08 Sear" so #xx shows.
B- Safety Lever- - - - - - "UP" , Ready to Fire.
C- Extractor - - "UP" , Geladen , Ready to Fire.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Viggo,

You made me make the empirical test.

Regarding "C", when a round is chambered the extractor rises 2mm above the top surface of the breechblock, and extends 1mm above the top of the receiver. It would be clearly prominent in the picture if it was loaded. In addition, at "D", the back of the extractor would be depressed into the breechblock, compressing its interior spring--this would be visible as well. (I've enhanced--brightened--the extractor area to make this a bit easier to see.)

At "A" you are right about the sear block being down, and being an "old model", un-relieved sear bar. That this is -not- a grip safety model (if I translated your original comment correctly) is demonstrated by the sear cut being angled forward, to match the forward-rake angle of the sear block. A grip-safety sear would be angled the opposite direction.

--Dwight

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...ugerdetail.jpg


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