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Baggs 05-16-2014 06:47 PM

Evaluating a Luger
 
Hi all, new user here.
My Dad had bought a Luger in the mid 60's, he passed away in '07..and that was one of the guns my mother always wanted to keep.

But lately she's thinking of selling it, as she's getting on in years.

I'm unsure of what pictures/info I could post in order for you savvy Luger folks to give me a price range I should ask for the gun.

Would someone be so kind as to let me know?

Thanks,
Mike

Edward Tinker 05-16-2014 08:15 PM

Look under the title New Collectors - then see How to ID a luger

here>>>>> http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=31977

it will tell you what we need to know

also, there is a ID data sheet that you could print out and write what you see

http://www.lugerforum.com/IDsheets.html

collector gun has to be unmessed with for best price - then condition is everything

we can figure out pretty quick if collector or 'shooter'

Ed

Baggs 05-16-2014 08:37 PM

Thanks ED, will get on it tomorrow when I head over to my moms place....Been years since I've looked at the gun.

Thanks again.

PS

How do I add to your "thank you"?
Can't seem to find the button.

Edward Tinker 05-16-2014 08:52 PM

click on the thumbs up ;)

I don't need to be thanked, just doing my job (unless its a early luger or a Simson, then contact me first hah, hah)

Baggs 05-16-2014 08:58 PM

Lol!

Too late, got ya!

Ron Wood 05-16-2014 09:03 PM

Whole lot of deleted messages here...what is going on? What is "too late, got ya!"? Has the gun been identified? Has it been sold already? Was it all a joke? Inquiring minds would like to know :)

Edward Tinker 05-16-2014 09:16 PM

Ron, one was a duplicate that I made - the 2nd was rich saying the same info as me, so he deleted the info

Tomorrow the gentleman will look and get info on the luger :)

Baggs 05-16-2014 09:34 PM

Sorry about that Ron,

I was replying to Ed...my messages was in refernce to him saying he didn't need to be thanked.

May have pics tonight, as I'll be emailing the info needed to my nephew, who stays at my mom's house.

Ron Wood 05-16-2014 10:39 PM

Thanks Mike! Us old geezers get confused sometimes. Looking forward to the photos. :)
Ron

Baggs 05-17-2014 07:11 PM

10 Attachment(s)
I hear ya Ron.

Well, digi camera won't work now and my nephew isn't avaiable for me yet, so I took these with my camera phone.
All the numbered parts are 49, serial numer in front of the trigger gaurd is 4449

The number on top (where date should be?) is 42.

there is some holster wear on the blueing at both front sides of the barrel.

If better pics are needed, I'll work on that.

Oh, and the clip number does not match.

Baggs 05-17-2014 07:12 PM

3 Attachment(s)
the rest of them:

Baggs 05-17-2014 07:17 PM

Looks like I missed the ID PDF...will start on that now and repost.

Baggs 05-17-2014 07:39 PM

Toggle inscprition byf
Chamber 42
Toggle know- I'm unsure, hopefully pic will suffice
No grip safety
Cal 9mm
Grips look wood, but "sound" like plastic when tapped on with clip out...feel like wood, but unsure.
Safety is on in rear position
Barrel measures a scooch over 3 1/8th inch
Rear sight is fixed, front adjustable
Mag plug is wood, number is 2901 and what appears to be a cross "+" well below it, and just under has annother insignia...sorta looking like a cursive lower cased "L", which also similarly appears under the 4449 on the frame, under the barrel.
Blueing wear in the action, holster wear in front of the barrel.
Blueing wear (from holster I suppose) on the protruding piece behind the take down lever.

No accessories.

Thanks.

DavidJayUden 05-17-2014 07:44 PM

Assuming that all the internal numbers match and the barrel is not rusted shut, I'd ball-park it around $1500. You may squeeze a little more out of it or you may prefer to discount it for faster sale.
My $.02, but let's see what the others have to say.
Overall a good honest gun.
dju

Baggs 05-17-2014 07:52 PM

Thanks David, I guess I did forget one important fact, the bore is in excellent condition.

ithacaartist 05-17-2014 08:02 PM

Hiya Mike, and welcome...

Let's call this a byf 42! The cursive, lower case L is part of the complete serial number--4449 L. Your mag appears likely to be from before 1942, though, 'cause by '42, they had aluminum bottoms, and the last versions marked "fxo"--the code for Haenel-Schmeiser--were actually constructed differently, forged then machined. I'll bet when we see the body of your mag, it will be nickeled sheet steel with crimped and staked construction.Your mag was issued for serial #2901 L, and the "+" designates the first spare mag--the primary would not have a plus sign. A third mag, if it existed for that gun, would have "++" on it. These are military marks.

I'll take a callow stab at value for you: I'd say it's collectible, unless subsequent pics bring up issues that knock it out of that category...if all the numbers legitimately match and the condition is demonstrated to be not too bad. I'd expect to be payin' $1.5k minimum for it, but, like I said, the details are in the hi-res pics, when they get posted, and condition is everything.

Edward Tinker 05-17-2014 08:32 PM

It looks a bit rougher in the pictures, but may look nicer in real life.

These sell fairly well, folks like them, as they are smack in the WW2 era :)

The magazine (if not said above) is wood and should be a black bakelite magazine - but not a big deal.

Ed

Baggs 05-17-2014 09:18 PM

Thank you gents, my nephew can get me good pics with his iphone...not being a expert in anything here (Luger related..lol) I can't say what is rough or not, I know if it was a navy Colt it'd be nice;)

I'll get some hi res pics up this evening.

Thanks again.

Edit:

And thanks for the welcome ith!

Oh, I might add is is just a 1500 dollar gun, it'll be a keeper. My dad had several (not Lugers) that I can sell for her to get her some fun money.

Thanks again.

Baggs 05-17-2014 09:26 PM

Oh, and would his res pics if just top, bottom and sides be sufficient, or shold I get all the proof marks again as well?

ithacaartist 05-18-2014 12:25 AM

Yes, all markings help tell a pistol's story; the more documented clearly, the merrier--and best info ferreted out in some cases. Better too many pics than too few...


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