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Fpp4440 10-31-2013 06:05 PM

Working mag and sear safety
 
I have an interesting Luger to post. Serial #9720e, 4"' 9mm, DWM, blank chamber, military style serial number placement, intact and working magazine and sear safeties. No proof marks. 8,82 on barrel. Matching except magazine. Condition approx. 90%. No marking on straps. It appears to be WW1 type and converted post war.

alanint 10-31-2013 06:34 PM

Welcome aboard!!

Photos would be great!

sheepherder 10-31-2013 09:22 PM

I am in the minority here, but I believe that an intact Police Luger is a significant historical piece. :cheers:

I also would like to see pictures, especially of the intact safeties.

What grips does it have???

Hugh 11-03-2013 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by postino (Post 243145)
I am in the minority here, but I believe that an intact Police Luger is a significant historical piece. :cheers:

I also would like to see pictures, especially of the intact safeties.

What grips does it have???

Guess I'll have to dig out my unmarked Police with both safeties intact and take pictures!:eek:

mystical_tutor 11-03-2013 10:15 PM

Please do Hugh. I'd love to see them too. I have always wished I had a working sear safety, or at least could really see one.

Gary

Dwight Gruber 11-04-2013 02:02 AM

A detailed photo examination of a functioning magazine safety on pages 85-87, and a profile of a pistol with intact safeties on pages 70-71, are found in the book Police Lugers by myself and Ed Tinker. Police Lugers is still available and can be ordered from Ed through this forum.

--Dwight

mystical_tutor 11-04-2013 03:13 AM

Thanks Dwight. I did just that and enjoy the book a lot. Have not finished it yet but did read the part of the mag safety, very nicely done.

I would really like to see one 'in the flesh' and actually see it work. The one I have has been broken, as so many have, where the part should protrude into the mag well.

Thanks for your work on that book, it is a valuable part of Luger history now, I think.

Gary

Sergio Natali 11-04-2013 07:19 AM

Welcome to this forum of LUGER enthusiasts, would be interesting to see some photos though.

I agree completely that an intact Police Luger is a significant historical piece.

Fpp4440 11-04-2013 10:09 AM

Two working safeties
 
I will have pictures soon.

ithacaartist 11-05-2013 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mystical_tutor (Post 243352)
I would really like to see one 'in the flesh' and actually see it work. The one I have has been broken, as so many have, where the part should protrude into the mag well.Gary

Gary,
Gerard Henrotin has an e-book, first in a series of five, called "Luger Mechanical Features". This link http://www.hlebooks.com/ is on our forum's main page, and the animated, firing Luger pistol is kind of a preview of the contents of the book. There's a section which explains the mechanical systems of the mag and sear safety, all about exactly how they work. I recommend spending the $7.95 for a copy on your computer, you'll be glad you did!

D.

Lyn Islaub 11-05-2013 03:21 AM

I've got a couple of them too and can post pictures next week when I'm back from vacation.

mystical_tutor 11-05-2013 01:21 PM

Dave I definately owe you one. That e-book is awesome. Everything I always wanted to know for $8.00. Do you have any recomendations or comments on the other books in the series? The titles sure look interesting.

Gary

Hugh 11-05-2013 03:08 PM

Sneak Police with mag & sear safeties in tact
 
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Sneak Police with working magazine safety and sear safety. I have shown pics with the magazine in and with it removed to illustrate how the magazine safety works.

HOW THE MAGAZINE SAFETY WORKS:
When the magazine is in the pistol, it pushes out the small tab in the frame and clears the tab behind the trigger so that the trigger can be pulled. With the magazine removed the safety moves in to position the tab behind the trigger so that the trigger cannot be pulled.

Just noticed that the trigger sn is off by 3.:eek: If anyone has a strawed trigger numbered 96 to sell or trade for this one please let me know!:confused:

sheepherder 11-05-2013 04:17 PM

Thank you for the pics! I can see it now! ;)

So the magazine safety doesn't block the sear at all, just the trigger???

Hugh, do you have a pic of the underside of the grip showing any additional cuts to accommodate the mag safety???

Hugh 11-05-2013 06:57 PM

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So the magazine safety doesn't block the sear at all, just the trigger???
CORRECT!

Hugh, do you have a pic of the underside of the grip showing any additional cuts to accommodate the mag safety?
Here you are:

Hugh 11-05-2013 07:48 PM

Pics of frank's mag safety Luger
 
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Pics of Frank's (fpp4440) mag safety Luger:

sheepherder 11-05-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 243499)
Hugh, do you have a pic of the underside of the grip showing any additional cuts to accommodate the mag safety?

Here you are:

Thank You! :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 243307)
Guess I'll have to dig out my unmarked Police with both safeties intact and take pictures!:eek:

...But your Police is marked... L.L1.67. :confused:

What does that stand for???

(My apologies to the OP...Hopefully, these off-thread posts are informative as well as entertaining) :)

ithacaartist 11-05-2013 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mystical_tutor (Post 243471)
Dave I definately owe you one. That e-book is awesome. Everything I always wanted to know for $8.00. Do you have any recomendations or comments on the other books in the series? The titles sure look interesting.

Gary

I was fairly intensively into the first one because M. Henrotin took me up on my offer to proof read and edit it for sentence structure and usage. Gerard explained that since it was the first, its English was not up to the level of subsequent Luger books. I had all five, and had skimmed the other four before a computer crash took them. I got the passwords re-instated, but then another crash and new hard drive. I need to re-up again, but I remember the rest seemed just as good and informative as the one I worked on.

Hugh 11-06-2013 02:59 AM

"...But your Police is marked... L.L1.67. What does that stand for???"

Actually, that marking is: L.Li.67.
That is a Landjagerei (Prussian Rural Constabulary) of the Weimar era marking. It indicates that this pistol belonged to the Liegnitz District and is weapon # 67. It was probably manufactured in 1929 by BKIW, the successor of DWM. (Information from Don Maus' book)

mystical_tutor 11-06-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 243506)
I was fairly intensively into the first one because M. Henrotin took me up on my offer to proof read and edit it for sentence structure and usage. Gerard explained that since it was the first, its English was not up to the level of subsequent Luger books. I had all five, and had skimmed the other four before a computer crash took them. I got the passwords re-instated, but then another crash and new hard drive. I need to re-up again, but I remember the rest seemed just as good and informative as the one I worked on.

If I'm reading right the copyright date is 2002 so i would expect them to be a little behind the times but not much. For that price I think I'll pick them up.

(PS, I bought a Seagate Freeagent .5 Tb external drive and just love it to pieces. Works with all OSs, fits in anything I can carry a puter in and runs like a champ. I back up on a laptop but mainly run on the remote.)

Gary


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