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Hugo Borchardt 10-05-2010 10:34 AM

Seldom seen M prefix DWM
 
Per Mr. Still's Weimar and Early Nazi Lugers page 243.

Poor shape with replaced takedown lever, but I love "anomolies" like this one.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...=192865367#PIC

Don M 10-05-2010 01:02 PM

The E/H and E/WaA66 acceptances are typical of those found on 29 DWMs that were issued to the Prussian Landjägerei.

Hugo Borchardt 10-05-2010 02:02 PM

Don:

Thanks. By 29 do you mean 1929, or that only 29 pistols were issued?

Clark

Don M 10-05-2010 03:50 PM

Clark,

I can understand your confusion. I was using the term "29 DWM" that was coined by Jan Still to refer to the Lugers manufactured by DWM/BKIW in 1929 bearing the suffixes "s," "t" and "u." Most of these pistols went to the Prussian police, including the Landjägerei, the rural police. Many but not all of these pistols have the E/H and E/WaA66 acceptance stamps on the right side of the receiver.

sheepherder 10-05-2010 06:20 PM

It appears to have the DWM logo on the toggle, but an artillery sight notch on the receiver...

Lugerdoc 10-06-2010 12:03 PM

The notched receiver is not unusual on post WW1 military & police pistols, as DWM was using up their left over WW1 LPO8 receivers. TH

goldwing 10-17-2010 02:18 AM

M prefix on serial number
 
I now own this luger and am fasinated by unusual and low serial numbers. The one thing you did not cover is--What is the mea:order:ning of the M prefix on the SN? a new member and new comer to Lugers. Bill Hughes

Edward Tinker 10-17-2010 06:36 AM

Well Bill, all ya gotta do is ask ;)

The "m" suffix is the letter block, i.e. for most military and police (and some commericiial varaitions), the suffix appears every 10,000 lugers;

so, 1-9999 is made THAT year and then its 1a, 2a etc, sometimes folks will say; and I have a really early luger because it is sn 345 / well, depends on the year doesn't it ;)

Some things to check out, go to the FAQ and see at the top of each forum, but especially the New Collectors area and read the items at the top, i.e. "stickies"

Welcome to the forum!


Ed

mrerick 10-17-2010 10:54 AM

Serial number
 
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Ed, The "m" is not a suffix as we normally see on Lugers. It's a serial number prefix. See the attached picture from Gunbroker.

Marc

goldwing 10-17-2010 12:34 PM

Marc, Thanks for posting the photo, I don't have the gun in my possession yet. Everyone seems to miss the word Prefix and read it as suffix Bill

sheepherder 10-17-2010 01:09 PM

Also has the "Crown/N" on barrel & receiver...Originally a commercial Luger???

William Hull 10-17-2010 04:01 PM

I don't believe I have ever seen a receiver cut for the artillery barrel that has E/H and WaA66?

Don,
Is this very common in your police data?
thanks,

William

ps Nice buy

goldwing 10-17-2010 10:26 PM

M PREFIX sn luger
 
catfishguns, Thanks for starting this Thread. It has answered many question I had on this new acquiction but one answer still remains unanswered. What is the meaning if any of the PREFIX M on the SN on this gun. The SN is M81. Thanks all. Bill Hughes

William Hull 10-18-2010 01:02 PM

Bill,
Look in Still's Weimar Lugers at pages 243 and 244. It doesn't answer the question you are looking for but does show another example. It also lists that when the book was printed, M10, M9, M26 and M28 were the only known examples. Your M81 is far from the grouping of the known examples.
With so few examples, the meaning may never be known.

William

goldwing 10-18-2010 01:22 PM

M preffix serial numbers
 
William, Thanks for the great information. Now to find a copy of that book.. I understand that Still's Weimar Lugers is now out of print.

Bill Hughes

Don M 10-18-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Hull (Post 184265)
I don't believe I have ever seen a receiver cut for the artillery barrel that has E/H and WaA66?

Don,
Is this very common in your police data?

William, it is not common and I don't recall ever seeing one before. These acceptances are typically found on the 29DWMs that were issued to the police.

mrerick 10-18-2010 09:35 PM

Could this have been a shop reference model used for testing the setting of gauges?

Marc

Badmoonrisen 04-24-2011 10:13 PM

Another M prefix luger
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by William Hull (Post 184303)
Bill,
Look in Still's Weimar Lugers at pages 243 and 244. It doesn't answer the question you are looking for but does show another example. It also lists that when the book was printed, M10, M9, M26 and M28 were the only known examples. Your M81 is far from the grouping of the known examples.
With so few examples, the meaning may never be known.

William

When someone figures this out please let me know also....I have a numbers matching, non dated DMW Luger with a m91 serial number

tomaustin 04-24-2011 10:40 PM

i am having a problem with that being an M....
 
very poorly struck.........with all the marks they produced, this one is not the firm style usually seen.........

sheepherder 04-24-2011 10:45 PM

Too bad nobody copied the pics to LugerForum...GB has purged the auction...

Too bad...


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