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wlyon 09-10-2005 08:29 PM

Dutch KNIL Holster
 
Arrived today. No markings, loops added, but seem to be same age as rest of the holster. Does not appear to have been used. No usage marks inside. Leather is in good condition. Some loose stitching. Has anyone seen a KNIL with loops? Holster is definitely old and has been in storage for a long time. Looking in Martens and deVries, they state that officer's model holsters were unmarked. They also talk on page 196 about them having two sewn on loops, but they have never seen one.
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lugerholsterrepair 09-10-2005 09:41 PM

Bill, A stunning example of an extremely rare holster! The straps are unusual...I have never seen them but I would imagine they might be original to this piece. It would be very difficult to add them later as they would be tough to sew in place. Thanks for sharing...Jerry Burney

wlyon 09-11-2005 10:38 AM

Jerry sent you a PM Bill

the gunman 09-11-2005 04:02 PM

Very Very nice holster.Congratulations quite a find. Especally in that condtion.

Pete Ebbink 09-11-2005 10:41 PM

Hi Bill,

What a great looking KNIL holster. You are one lucky dude !

Anymore available ? If you are missing a Dutch luger, I would be happy to adopt it until you bring one home...:D

Would you mind letting us know how much you had to pay...just so we know where the market is going...???

wlyon 09-11-2005 10:45 PM

Pete sent you a PM Bill

Pete Ebbink 09-12-2005 08:18 AM

(Posted deleted by Pete...9-13-05).

I meant to reply to a PM from Bill via the PM feature but mistakenly replied on the open Forum.

My apologies, Bill...I am such a bonehead when I have worked a long day...

Vlim 09-12-2005 12:52 PM

Ohmygod!

Who snapped these up?

wlyon 09-12-2005 06:42 PM

The seller does not have anymore of these.They were imported in from some buyer somewhere? The reason I didn"t list where they came from is to avoid people calling the seller.

Navy 09-12-2005 08:09 PM

I have a matching mag pouch for the KNIL holster that is FS. It is NOT cheap.

Tom A.

wlyon 09-12-2005 10:15 PM

Tom Sent you a PM Bill

SteveM 11-08-2005 06:33 AM

On ebay now....

http://cgi.ebay.com/REVOLVER-HOLSTER...QQcmdZViewItem

lugerholsterrepair 11-08-2005 11:08 AM

TheKNIL holster from the link above is identical to the three KNIL holsters I examined a month or so ago. This fellow has excellent photo's and if one or more of our Members who have originals care to compare theirs and give some thoughts it would be appreciated.
Ron Wood comes to mind....
Jerry Burney

Pete Ebbink 11-08-2005 12:12 PM

Bidding frenzy on another one on e-Bay...

A different e-Bay seller...but also from CA area...

I liked these alot better at $ 45 each...:D

Search for e-Bay item # 6576791963...

Ron Wood 11-08-2005 03:50 PM

From a construction standpoint, the holster looks right as rain. Other than the unusual long loops, there are minor differences from my holster.

The riveted belt loop is quite a bit taller top to bottom than mine with the top of the loop nearly at the top of the holsterâ?¦looks to be about an inch taller than mine and would accommodate a much wider belt. It is of the second type used with the â??Sam Browneâ? belt. (The first type had a long belt loop that extended above the holster.)

The next two differences probably are just the result of the workmanship of different sattlers. The cleaning rod cover â??flapâ? is sewn directly to the holster body rather than to the reinforcing strip along the top edge of the holster body. The closing strap on the front of the â??lidâ? is also a bit longer than mine and sewn nearer the top of the holster.

There is no factory code visible in the photos. Doesnâ??t mean there isnâ??t one, just canâ??t see one.

As has been pointed out, Martens & de Vries mention an Officerâ??s Model M-11 holster with two sewn on belt loops, but they had no examples to photograph. The loops on the holster on eBay and the other two examples recently posted seem a lot longer than necessary to accommodate a wide officerâ??s belt, but maybe they are intended to give a â??drop loop buscaderoâ? effect! Also it seems odd that the holster would have both the wide riveted loop for the Sam Browne belt and the long sewn loops. Another odd thing is that the rear loop is at quite an angle, which would seem to accommodate attachment to a shoulder harness rig rather than hanging straight down from a belt. Perhaps a variation on the Sam Browne rig but without the belt??

The holster is most likely legitimate, but it would be nice to identify its origin and use.

lugerholsterrepair 11-08-2005 05:10 PM

Ron, Thanks for your perceptive analysis.

Did you notice the small nail in the bottom edge of the cleaning rod top flap? Does yours have this? The others I inspected did in one or more places along this bottom edge.
Jerry Burney

Ron Wood 11-08-2005 06:05 PM

Jerry,
Nope, doesn't have any nails.

Pete Ebbink 11-16-2005 04:04 PM

Final e-Bay price for # 6576791963 went at $ 1,050.00. Wonder if this guy knows three Luger Forum members got some for $ 45.00 each...?

the gunman 11-16-2005 06:57 PM

' My god where is our hobby going" Who in God's name is paying these prices.

Edward Tinker 11-16-2005 09:29 PM

not me Richie! :D


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