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sheepherder 11-01-2014 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Norme (Post 262361)
I think we're missing out on a golden fund raising opportunity, a completion date pool. Participants send in $10.00 and their predicted completion date, the closest to the actual date...

Have to be closest *after* the actual completion date...Otherwise, it won't actually be completed... :rolleyes:

Would the blocks be weeks, months, or years??? Like the 43rd week of 2016??? Or maybe April 2017??? :confused:

Not all that many 'active' members here to make it interesting... :(

berkmberk1 11-12-2014 07:53 PM

Interesting thread. He now has my C96. Its only been a month and a half, so I guess I don't qualify for remark making yet...the Luger looks to be MUCH more intricate than my re-barrel, re-finish job. But from the results I see, I definitely think its worth the wait

sheepherder 12-11-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 243728)
Hook is attached by silver alloy and is the way the original carbines have been done, George Luger trusted silver , who am I to question that ;0)

Actually the forearm lug was attached by a screw prior to silver brazing. Sturgess & Gortz have a nice X-ray pic of the frame showing the screw on a carbine compared to a 'regular' frame (pic below). :)

I had noticed a ground-off screw in the pic of Eric's carbine also (other pic). :p

I hope this doesn't mean you'll have to start all over... :eek:

lugerholsterrepair 12-11-2014 09:38 PM

I hope this doesn't mean you'll have to start all over...OOPSIE!

alvin 12-11-2014 09:39 PM

Lugerman's site disappeared. Wrapped up your $$ and run away??

Now, if you go to lugerman.com, it's an Ukranian Dating site .. Russian Brides Ukraine etc...

what's going on? Any info on the new site?

Edward Tinker 12-11-2014 09:50 PM

I happened to send him an email tonight.

Either he screwed up and his site was sold or its in limbo.

But slightly concerned...

ithacaartist 12-11-2014 11:51 PM

Eric, it is my considered opinion that, especially in this case, active hands are infinitely more efficacious than praying hands. That is why I like to do as much business as I can locally--where it is possible to reach across the counter and explain things while shaking them warmly by the throat! I don't think I'd pull anything shady on Ed, even if he does live a state away. I think there's some mix-up beyond the "usual". Actually, I'm worried about Eugene, if all this is happening. Has anyone heard from him in these last six weeks?

Lugerdoc 12-12-2014 09:39 AM

My original Hellerarms.com site was taken over by others, when I failed to renew the service. I had thought that it would just disappear years ago. TH

Edward Tinker 12-12-2014 09:50 AM

good point Tom Heller :)

and yes, heard from Eugene today - site was hacked and he has taken control again and cleaning it up....

CAP Black 12-12-2014 11:38 PM

No promises on the carbine?
Jack

Edward Tinker 12-12-2014 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CAP Black (Post 264250)
No promises on the carbine?
Jack

I will be sent stock and forearm photos this weekend to choose the wood.

Than its 'supposed' to be done before Christmas.

Wish me luck jack :rockon:

tomaustin 12-13-2014 12:19 AM

Ed, are you gonna stage a world-wide tour to show that thing off to all of us??????? hell, i'll pay good $$$ just to see it in the flesh...:p Tom

Edward Tinker 12-13-2014 01:12 PM

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Eugene gave me a choice of stock forearms (stock will be from same piece of wood).

He had one stock set left 2 months ago and the main stock cracked as it dried. He could fix it or he could have new ones made (which was scheduled with a guy this month).

Hoping to be shooting by Christmas :rolleyes:

same picture, but the ones with an arrow are the ones I selected.

alvin 12-14-2014 10:37 AM

The site is back :)

Through viewing his restoration work, it's obvious that C&R is very domain oriented. For the guns that I don't know, looking at his work, I cannot tell that's restored, because I don't know what an original one should look like. For example:

http://www.lugerman.com/Pages/SamplePages/Work_23.html

Looks good? Well, that depends on how an original one in similar condition should look like. No comparison. No idea. Is this British...

Internet not only helps collectors, also helps restorers. 20-shot conehammer restored by Gale Morgan in 1980s appeared in auction. Of course, much better done. But have obvious errors. Surprise. Why? Probably not because he intentionally left a few holes there.. most likely, no enough information in 1980s.

Edward Tinker 12-14-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by alvin (Post 264305)
...I cannot tell that's restored, because I don't know what an original one should look like.

I would say anyone who can not tell if something is original or restored should only buy from a reputable dealer. :confused:

sheepherder 12-14-2014 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 264262)
Eugene gave me a choice of stock forearms (stock will be from same piece of wood).

There's no buttstocks pictured! How will you know if they match?!?!

alvin 12-14-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 264308)
I would say anyone who can not tell if something is original or restored should only buy from a reputable dealer. :confused:

True. Reputable dealer is a great starting point. I bought my first C96 from Simpson, learned lots of things from it. Sold long time ago, but it's a good one. Also got another one from FGS, FGS was expensive,,,,much more expensive, but it's a good one, too. Initially, I thought I spent too much on it, but the price was raising over years, it's sold easily later.

Edward Tinker 12-14-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 264309)
There's no buttstocks pictured! How will you know if they match?!?!

At this point, I just want them to match fairly well :)

but each of these forearms are supposed to be cut from the matching wood for the stock, so they should match....

I just want it done.

sheepherder 01-09-2015 03:12 PM

While browsing through old forum posts, I came across this illuminating 2005 thread about Eugene...

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=12411

Most enlightening... :D

Edward Tinker 01-11-2015 01:20 AM

Stock and forearm are done.
I drove down to Bensalem area, which is close, really close to Eugene...

Just waiting....


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