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Jim, Thanks for your data. It's most appreciated! :)
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I figured this would be a good opportunity for my first post.
byf 42 barrel #5963 no bore gage. "g" designation "Black Widow" all matching 98% with 2 matching mags and a dld WaA195 black holster |
Hi Ray, thanks for your data. I hope the 2 matching magazines are black plastic bottom "fxo" types without marks on the plastic.
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No problem Frank. Yes they are black and fxo.
From what I understand, this was a set that had been kept together since its "liberation". Of course that and $4 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. |
Hi Ray, thanks for the reply!
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byf 42 #173g
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LR, Thanks for your data. Keeping the info flowing is appreciated! :)
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byf 42 9371d, no bore gage
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Jake, thanks much for the data. As always, it's much appreciated.
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1942 byf
I have 3955 c no bore guage, black grips. can anybody tell me what month this was made
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After looking back at post# 128 it appears that the c is an L in my prior post, list as 3955 L no bore gage
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Ty, thanks for the data. It's pretty common to mix a "C" with a "L" in 1940 and 1942 Military Mausers, so don't feel bad. :)
Serial Number 3955L was completed in about August 1942 and was among the last submitted to the Army. The Portuguese Contract started in the M-Block. |
thanks Frank, What is last serial number that you have found for german made lugers ?
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Ty, first, you're welcome. Next, you've asked several questions in your "question".
WWII Lugers were made by both Mauser and Krieghoff. Mauser Lugers were produced for mostly the Army, with some undoubtedly for the SS. Krieghoff Lugers went to the Luftwaffe. As I mentioned, the last Mauser Lugers for the Army ended with the L-Block, approximately. That being true, my data shows the highest number to be 9958L. Mauser also produced Lugers for Portugal (about 5000) and Bulgaria (about 6000). My data shows the highest Portuguese as 5228m and the highest Bulgarian as 3800n. Hope this helps a little! :) |
I got a 42 byf with no bore gauge ser 5442f today
Regards Kai Norway |
Kai, thanks fot the data on your 42 byf. Congratulations!!
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Hi Frank, this must be a "banner week" for byf 42's. I just got one on Monday serial number 2944 f . No bore gage stamping. It is all matching with 44 marked wood grips and a black bottom fxo mag. I'd say about a 95% finish gun. Now I have to learn how to post pictures on the forum. What month, would this have been likely made? Thanks. HTH'S
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Levi, First, thanks for the data and congrats on your new pistol. Serial Number 2944f, 42 byf was completed about April 1942. :)
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Thanks for the info Frank....being born in May of 1942 gives me a connection with this pistol:thumbup:
This may not be the proper place to post this however, I have a VOPO byf 42 which has a replacment barrel so I can't help with your original question in this posting but....the serial number is 2047f and I noticed a difference between this one and my new2944f. the 2047f has the complete serial number including the"f"on the left side of the barreled receiver BUT the 2944f does not???? Just numbers but no "f". I'm sure this has probably been discussed but I'm wondering if there is a "cut off point" when Mauser stopped carrying over the suffix to the receiver or could it just have been a mistake to not include it? These types of question are why we collect, isn't it!:) Levi |
Levi, Mauser never stamped the suffix on the left side of the receiver. The only place the suffix is noted is on the front of the frame below the numerals.
The VOPO procedure probably put the "f" on the receiver. |
hello just got a luger from my grandfather he passed when i was 4 my just got it out of his safe last night, not looking to get rid of it hust want to know if i have somthing valuable or just another gun i have been reading forms and this is what i can tell you about it. It has a 42 on top of it and a byf, 1972 on the side, and just 72 on a lot of little peases all over, the bottom of the barrel has 1972, and under barrel on the front of the gun it has 1972, and what looks like an i underneth it it has 3 symbols on the right side to small to make out i can see what looks like 135 under 2 of the symbols the clip has fxo or fxc( i dont have a magnifiy glass) my grandmother says she has the paper work somewhere for it, and an lether holtser for it, any help will be gratfull thanks
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Richard, take some pictures and start a new thread. Then we will be able to help you out. And regardless, I can assure that you don't have "just another gun", you have your grandpa's Luger.
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i took pic but dont know how to get on here( mabe u can help), and it has a lot of value to i gess i just under sold it
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ricgard, thanks for the data ans pictures. Looks like a nice 42 byf.
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It appears to be a very late war Mauser-brand P08, one that was probably unissued or certainly saw little battle time. Holsters and "bring-back" authorization papers do help the value of the gun quite a bit. Can't tell if it is all matching but I'll gues that it is. You alluded to value, so I'll roll the dice. IF it matches, has the correct magazine, if the holster is the correct holster appropriate to the year and condition, and if Grandma can find the papers, I'd ball-park if at a bit over $2k. Now more photos and info. may change that guesstimate, but that is my $.02 worth.
Now we'll see what the others have to say. Welcome, and that is a very nice legacy that you have been granted temporary custody of. Is there a story to go along with it? dju |
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i dont have much of a story grandpa got it he died at 55 i was 4, then it was my dads he died 2 years ago so im in the dark, my grand ma knows somthing about it shes sopost to call me back and we are gona look for the paper work, regardless i would never sell it i intend on giving it to my son one day, it is awsome to know we on a peace of history
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just got the trend thing. sorry Frank and all, new to form i should of posted somewhere else just saw 42 byf, my bad
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hi, new to the forum
42 byf 2396h, no bore gage |
David, thanks for the data. It's most appreciated.
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David
Very nice luger! Thank you for sharing.:thumbup: Did anyone tell you the holster you have pictured is a WW2 US Army model issued for the 1911A1? Definitely not original issue for a German luger.:eek: Bob |
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ser # 966 (d) bore gage 8.82 Can you give me the year mfg. Thanks John |
John, thanks for the data. Your Luger, 42 byf, S/N 966d was completed about February 1942.
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Can you tell mfg date of my 42 byf 2396h?
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Wreck, my best guess is May 1942. Hope this helps!! :)
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What can you tell me about mine, 42 byf 1985(g) & no bore.
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Hi Craig, thanks for the data on your 42 byf!
Serial Number 1985g was completed about April 1942. Other than that, not much more information is available. |
byf 42 markings
Barrel stamped 5314 with "881" below. Front of frame is 5314 with an elongated "S" attached to a "O".
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Mountie, please provide a picture of the frame front showing the serial number. I don't understand your description.
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