A get together in that area would be great. I'd like to meet any other members who could make it, face-to-face. With a couple weeks' notice, just about anytime would be fine with me. Rich and I could probably share part of the trip, and gas expenses. 45 minutes or so between Ed's and Eugene's places does not seem prohibitive for a side trip/tour.

Dry? This ain't Alabama in 1972....

You can't buy vodka in the grocery store but there are liquor stores run by the state, open 6 or 7 days a week? Beer and wine is at many specialty stores... Not easy like many states, but it is not that hard to find a place. Bensalem is not that far from Eugene and there is a big casino and lots of food places, but its 42 miles from me - I used to work there :)

Now, and its still weird to me, but many restaurants can't sell alcohol but they allow BOB (bring your own beer - or whatever) and that is still odd to me :)

I would think we should set up a get together - personally I think it would be smarter to be closer towards me and then we caravan and go visit Eugene - cuz I can arrange things easier if closer?

I also am willing to have a get together Saturday with a BBQ where folks could bring things to show and tell and if you have a FFL - trade or sell (donna know if you new yonkers could do anything like that....) --- hopefully after a visit to see Eugenes set up.

Also, not good to do it a weekend of Allentown show, as set up is friday afternoon, it lasts until 5 pm on saturday and is sunday, so anyone with a table (myself and others) could not attend without being exhausted ;)

Ed

Sheepherder
Jerry was just using your own words: Just want to see a worthwhile manufacturing operation.
Right, Jerry?
Ha Ha.
Jack

Ithaca is just about 4 hours from Phila.

PI live about 68 miles north of Ed. Consider me in for a get together as long as it isn't in the last week of September. (Shoulder surgery that week). I would truly love to meet you all.

Kenny

Speaking of upstate New York, Did anyone make Woodstock and lived to tell? Eric

Closest Best Westerns are not that close - some in Philly area. But, same type of place, Days Inn, etc for $60 and up in Pottstown (6 miles or so from me), Quakertown, north, but even farther from Eugene, etc. Lansdale has hotel right off of 476

My son will make comments like, oh, I will sleep in my car. Sorry, I simply will pay the dollars and stay in a hotel ;)

Anyway, I would be willing to host a meeting in the afternoon and evening on a Saturday, whether folks stay close to Eugene or closer to me :) I have a large covered porch out front and a nice one out back, and either plenty of parking at my house or we have a walking trail out front - if folks are interested, I would personally give them my address...

of course, we would have to find out if Eugene is willing - if no or uncomfortable in such a short amount of time, we can still have a summer get together, heck, I do project management for a living, not that hard to help others make plans and I can guarantee a nice Saturday as a minimum.

Ed

What are the requirements for purchasing a handgun in Pennsylvania? Can an out of state resident purchase and take delivery in PA? :confused:

No, it s not like Oklahoma or other western states. Rifles, shotguns easy. Handguns you are supposed to go through an FFL on each side, if a resident, you go through an FFL.

If you have an FFL 03 than you can take possession and then I believe you handle your state laws.

Eugene stated he was building five of these. Maybe one will find its way onto GB. :thumbup:

Eric, the 60s had not hit Northern New York, Watertown in particular, even by 1969. The era finally made an appearance there, but after I was gone. In a manner of speaking, I missed all the goodies of the 60s.

My only story is second-hand. An acquaintance--a rich kid who owned a '67 red convertible Corvette--attended. He said he parked miles from the venue, but still returned to find his car sort of trampled and savaged. Remember, a nearby section of the NY Thruway was closed for a bit due to the press of concert-goers and their traffic!

Tks, I guess it wasn't all peace!

Talked to Eugene, no time line yet, but he said he is working on it.

Hoping to get pictures of further progress, or even better the carbine to the doorl :)

Yes, I have a question...What happened to Ed Tinker's carbine??? :confused:

Well I asked him, fairly abruptly, as I am a bit impatient nowadays. I am 54, I could die any day :cool:

He sent me these stock pictures, but I could have sworn it already had a stock...

Eugene is probably not getting any more prompt in his old age...
dju

Those pictures/that stock are on the first page of this thread...From November of last year...WTF??? :confused:

I hope Ed doesn't push this with his friends at the Philly PD... :(

I think we're missing out on a golden fund raising opportunity, a completion date pool. Participants send in $10.00 and their predicted completion date, the closest to the actual date wins the jack-pot, 50% of the monies collected. The balance would go to forum maintenance.
I would volunteer to handle the administration myself, but since I've reached the advanced age of 76, I think it should be in the hands of someone who has a reasonable expectation of being alive at the time of completion, some young fella like Sheepherder, who seems to have a lot of time on his hands.
Regards, Norm

Sheepherder turns 65 next week and was told he has 18 months to live...20 years ago...

Not a good choice... :rolleyes:

Sounds like a great idea Norm but instead of half of the jack pot make first prize Ed's Carbine, he's getting up in years and probably doesn't even remember what it is he's waiting for. :roflmao:

Lon

Have to be closest *after* the actual completion date...Otherwise, it won't actually be completed... :rolleyes:

Would the blocks be weeks, months, or years??? Like the 43rd week of 2016??? Or maybe April 2017??? :confused:

Not all that many 'active' members here to make it interesting... :(

Interesting thread. He now has my C96. Its only been a month and a half, so I guess I don't qualify for remark making yet...the Luger looks to be MUCH more intricate than my re-barrel, re-finish job. But from the results I see, I definitely think its worth the wait

Actually the forearm lug was attached by a screw prior to silver brazing. Sturgess & Gortz have a nice X-ray pic of the frame showing the screw on a carbine compared to a 'regular' frame (pic below). :)

I had noticed a ground-off screw in the pic of Eric's carbine also (other pic). :p

I hope this doesn't mean you'll have to start all over... :eek:

I hope this doesn't mean you'll have to start all over...OOPSIE!

Lugerman's site disappeared. Wrapped up your $$ and run away??

Now, if you go to lugerman.com, it's an Ukranian Dating site .. Russian Brides Ukraine etc...

what's going on? Any info on the new site?

I happened to send him an email tonight.

Either he screwed up and his site was sold or its in limbo.

But slightly concerned...

Eric, it is my considered opinion that, especially in this case, active hands are infinitely more efficacious than praying hands. That is why I like to do as much business as I can locally--where it is possible to reach across the counter and explain things while shaking them warmly by the throat! I don't think I'd pull anything shady on Ed, even if he does live a state away. I think there's some mix-up beyond the "usual". Actually, I'm worried about Eugene, if all this is happening. Has anyone heard from him in these last six weeks?

My original Hellerarms.com site was taken over by others, when I failed to renew the service. I had thought that it would just disappear years ago. TH

good point Tom Heller :)

and yes, heard from Eugene today - site was hacked and he has taken control again and cleaning it up....

No promises on the carbine?
Jack

I will be sent stock and forearm photos this weekend to choose the wood.

Than its 'supposed' to be done before Christmas.

Wish me luck jack :rockon:

Ed, are you gonna stage a world-wide tour to show that thing off to all of us??????? hell, i'll pay good $$$ just to see it in the flesh...:p Tom

Eugene gave me a choice of stock forearms (stock will be from same piece of wood).

He had one stock set left 2 months ago and the main stock cracked as it dried. He could fix it or he could have new ones made (which was scheduled with a guy this month).

Hoping to be shooting by Christmas :rolleyes:

same picture, but the ones with an arrow are the ones I selected.

The site is back :)

Through viewing his restoration work, it's obvious that C&R is very domain oriented. For the guns that I don't know, looking at his work, I cannot tell that's restored, because I don't know what an original one should look like. For example:

http://www.lugerman.com/Pages/SamplePages/Work_23.html

Looks good? Well, that depends on how an original one in similar condition should look like. No comparison. No idea. Is this British...

Internet not only helps collectors, also helps restorers. 20-shot conehammer restored by Gale Morgan in 1980s appeared in auction. Of course, much better done. But have obvious errors. Surprise. Why? Probably not because he intentionally left a few holes there.. most likely, no enough information in 1980s.

I would say anyone who can not tell if something is original or restored should only buy from a reputable dealer. :confused:

There's no buttstocks pictured! How will you know if they match?!?!

True. Reputable dealer is a great starting point. I bought my first C96 from Simpson, learned lots of things from it. Sold long time ago, but it's a good one. Also got another one from FGS, FGS was expensive,,,,much more expensive, but it's a good one, too. Initially, I thought I spent too much on it, but the price was raising over years, it's sold easily later.

At this point, I just want them to match fairly well :)

but each of these forearms are supposed to be cut from the matching wood for the stock, so they should match....

I just want it done.

While browsing through old forum posts, I came across this illuminating 2005 thread about Eugene...

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=12411

Most enlightening... :D

Stock and forearm are done.
I drove down to Bensalem area, which is close, really close to Eugene...

Just waiting....