I have no idea Pete. I do not even know if it sold at Tulsa.

Eric, where can i find the 'SA MUSEUM' web site?

Eric,

Here is a link. You enter "luger" into the search window to bring up the Lugers (photos and description and some history of each gun) in their collection :

http://www.museum.nps.gov/spar/wordsearch.htm

BTW...you might find this discussion topic over on Jan's Gun Boards an interesting read as well. It deals with one gun in the SA Museum collection and its importance to four 7-shot Lugers that have appeared in the USA.

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11236

Hi Ron,

I have sent a written inquiry to the SA Museum folks to see if they still report Luger # 6885 (TE) in their current inventory or not.

Replies take a week or two. Will report what I find out.

I want to thank you guys, You make life so interesting,all of You!!

How do you use the Springfiel Arsenel search base? Im having no luck, eric

Eric,

On the page link I referred you to...look for the empty or blank "window"...type in the word "luger' and click the bar labeled "search" just below that. The lugers will pop up shortly after you click on "search".

Thank you so much, im a little slow since my stoke and coma, in Costa Rico, four years ago.

Hi Ron,

Recieved a nice note from the S.A. Museum folks regarding their # 6885 M1900 AE Test Luger.

Reckon some "forgery" made its way to the Tulsa show...???

The Museum folks indicate their # 6885 has been in their collection since :

" Weapon transferred to the Museum on 31 May 1926 "


" Dear Sir,

I can assure you that SPAR-865, sn# 6885, is still here. In fact, we just completed the inventory. I canâ??t explain the Tulsa gun.

I do want to thank you for informing us.

Note: In order to see the Springfield Armory collection fully updated, you now have to go to www.museum.nps.gov . This site has recently been updated and the next scheduled update will be sometime in January, 2007.

The National Park Service is proud to be able to offer our new Park Pass.
The Pass is a great value. It allows our neighbors to see the wonderful diversity of National Parks around the country while at the same time helping the Springfield Armory National Historic Site fund projects that improve the visitors experience within the park. The National Parks Pass will be sold for $80 at The Springfield Armory National Historic Site and at other parks around the country, and online at www.nationalparks.com and toll free at 1-888-GO-PARKS.

The Springfield Armory Museum is divided into two thematic areas. Each area has changing and permanent exhibits, machinery, and video stations with computer generated graphics. The â??Armory Industryâ?� area presents the story of important inventions and inventors. Visitors become familiar with the "American System of Manufacture," the Blanchard Lathe, and the Lyle â??life savingâ?� gun. Armory machines and other inventions dramatically advanced the mass production of consumer products like keys, shoes, baseball bats, and furniture.

The â??Armory Armsâ?� area presents the story of U.S., Confederate and foreign shoulder arms, edged weapons, and pistols. The story begins with a 14th century hand cannon and ends with modern machine guns. Visitors come from around the world to see our Nationâ??s best collection of experimental U.S.
military arms and the "Organ of Muskets" made famous by the Henry Wadsworth Longfellow poem, "The Arsenal at Springfield." Armory weapons were essential in all major conflicts in U.S. history. The museum collection contains many firsts and lasts, including over 100 arms with serial # 1.

If you would like more specific information, please contact us at the above address, otherwise e-mail us at www.nps.gov/spar or by telephone (413) 734-8551, or fax (413) 747-8062. Visit our Web site to research the firearm collection at www.museum.nps.gov , check out our â??Calendar of Eventsâ?� or read more about the history of Springfield Armory.

I hope this has been of some help.

Sincerely


s/John McCabe
Collections Curator "

Ron,

Do you recall who was selling the "other" # 6885 at Tulsa ?

Besides a Holster and ammunition, were there any other accessories, such as a marked takedown tool, distributed, I trying to finish my, Test Display, finished. Eric at 'snookem13@aol.com.

When I went to the site as linked by Pete, I clicked to enlarge the photo for the catalog # SPAR 858. In the collection depicted is a short barrel Luger with a shoulder stock attached.

Any comments? Is this evidence that non arty or Navy pistols used stocks?

Hi Rod,

Is sure would be nice to find a WWI-era photo with a stocked 4" Luger in a German soldier's hands.

If "necessity if the mother of invention", I can easily see a soldier trying a wooden stock on a short-barrelled Luger especially if others tell him how it has improved their shooting accuracy with a 6" or 8" Luger with a stock. But it would be nice to see such a period-photo for any "proof".

The SA museum folks will give you info, (if you email them) to see if the gun and stock came into their collection as a set or whether the "assemblage" resulted when the curator wanted to set up the display. Their acquistion of the gun and stock may have just come to them that way from a collector in the 1920's that decided to buy the pair together (and when it was not illegal in the USA to do so...).

Photo Rod mentions...

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/spar_858_photo.jpg

Hi, Pete, it came to me later than my post that I could check this out and I will try to do so with the museum folks later.

Yes, I want that photo evidence you mention. I think it's ridiculous we have to go through those hoops, but....

I have no doubt that this short barrel and stock combo was tried and not just once by the men at arms.

There is an outside chance that that stocked short barrel Luger is a Finnish gun...but I still do not think that combo has been exempt by the BATFE.

I'm not an expert, Ron, as you know, but I don't think so either.

I being Polish/German, was wondering if any Polish lugers have ever surfaced, And what is the rarest luger varient available today?

I don't know of any Polish type Lugers but am sure that if you publicize an interest in such a gun one will appear.

Gentlemen,

I am moving up this old thread, which I originally started back in January 2003. I wonder if anybody is still onto that Springfield trail of the US test Luger serial range that came up in the thread? Ron?

Balder

balder, I know do a collector or three who are very interested, myself is one of them...