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mrerick 01-05-2013 10:45 AM

If you have been watching the news over the past days, you will see that general interest in Gun Control has waned (the number of Google searches on the subject is way down).

That poses problems for the current administration. Yet daily you see Joe Biden or Gabby Giffords in the news saying or doing something related to the issue.

What you are witnessing now is the regular "drumbeat" of publicity, and it's very likely that it's a formally planned roll out of "information" coordinated by press relations people paid for by the anti gun people.

It's called "spin".

This is why once or twice a day, someone with national visibility says or does something to remind the general public that "guns are bad", and "something will be done".

With enough repetition, they know that people in the middle will buy into this since they are unfamiliar with guns personally, and only have the constantly repeated negative images of artificial gun violence and hyper-publicized real criminal attacks to base opinions on.

We need to counter with an even stronger drum beat that shares the truth:

- In November and December, 2012 there were 5 million background checks for gun purchases (one or more) cleared by the Federal NCIS system.

- Our violent crime rate is about one third the rate of geographies with complete gun control in place like Britian.

- Less than 5 percent of all murders are committed with rifles of all types (including semi-automatics). They are not the problem. Criminals are.

- Criminals, by their nature and acts, only respect the immediate application of effective counter-force. Taking away firearms of any type makes law abiding citizens vulnerable, and is against our constitution.

Marc

Curly1 01-05-2013 12:06 PM

Agreed criminals are the main problem but only because the legal system keeps releasing them back upon us.

MikeP 01-05-2013 05:55 PM

Re update;
They are coming back for a vote Sunday evening.
Apparently enough evil henchmen have been rounded up to convince them they can win.

This is a lame duck session, being conducted by folkd who will be out of a job on the 10th.

This is a parting shot from those whose political career is not at risk.

Don't forget Biden and his bunch are hard at work in the dark.

It is a new day and they are coming out swinging lile never before-means they have got lots of momentum they never had before,

You can talk all the history and philosophy yoy wish, but a new day is here and it don't look bright.

I don't believe this is anywhere near the end of things they intend for the future.

We'll see.

NoncomRetired 01-05-2013 06:28 PM

I was unaware of that. I will be waiting for it's outcome. Nothing mentioned on the STL area news tonight either.

Thanks


Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeP (Post 226406)
Re update;
They are coming back for a vote Sunday evening.
Apparently enough evil henchmen have been rounded up to convince them they can win.

This is a lame duck session, being conducted by folkd who will be out of a job on the 10th.

This is a parting shot from those whose political career is not at risk.

Don't forget Biden and his bunch are hard at work in the dark.

It is a new day and they are coming out swinging lile never before-means they have got lots of momentum they never had before,

You can talk all the history and philosophy yoy wish, but a new day is here and it don't look bright.

I don't believe this is anywhere near the end of things they intend for the future.

We'll see.


NoncomRetired 01-06-2013 12:11 PM

At 5PM today the Illinois House comes to order. One of the Bills will require all automatic pistol owners to register each pistol with a cost of 10-15 dollars per pistol and pistols and they can not be inherited. We will see.

NoncomRetired 01-06-2013 07:05 PM

Vote in the Illinois House was canceled............:cheers:

MikeP 01-07-2013 01:10 AM

It was cancelled for the rest of the lame duck session.

They have had a similar bill in waiting for a long time, but cannot get enough momentum.
They sure came close this time.
There are lots of us downstate and the rest of the stae, actually, bu a couple population centers control everything,

They have not given up and the feds are next up.
They are also pretty quiet on crafting the the pending CCW imple,emtation.

Some fear it will be restrictive like NY.
I admit it will be a bit strange being amongst a bunch of suddenly armed folks who have no history or practice being armed.

NoncomRetired 01-07-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeP (Post 226514)


They are also pretty quiet on crafting the the pending CCW imple,emtation.


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Even those pro-gun lobbyist are staying quiet. For sure, all the anti-gunner Illinois politicians will try to make it as hard and as expensive as possible and use all that has happened lately with guns as an excuse. Watch and wait is the norm..........


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