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stressed 02-25-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 250659)
I do not see why not.

Lugers a strong guns...

It may be even less change then 45 GAP.

Less mods on the frame.

Problem is i got breach block for 45 GAP cut as well as barrels.

And i got nothing for 40.

If i will be making other calibers , I think i like 357 Sig better

I agree. 125gr .357 SIG out of 8" arty barrel or carbine would have serious bite. You would have plenty of penetration from a 4" barrel with a JHP.

Edward Tinker 03-04-2014 08:04 PM

Pictures to add to the 'carbine build'? Or better yet, can I drop by the house and pick up my carbine?

CAP Black 03-04-2014 10:25 PM

I think putting on the pressure for a quick delivery is not a wise thing to do.
IMHO
Jack

Edward Tinker 03-04-2014 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CAP Black (Post 251104)
I think putting on the pressure for a quick delivery is not a wise thing to do.
IMHO
Jack

uh okay

I guess I should delete Eugene's email to me - which was what I wanted :confused:

LugerMan.com 03-05-2014 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 251106)
uh okay

I guess I should delete Eugene's email to me - which was what I wanted :confused:

Customer gets what , customer wants...:O)

LugerMan.com 03-05-2014 10:52 AM

Yes pictures are comming some time end of next week.

Sieger 03-05-2014 11:21 AM

Hi,

I'd vote for a .40 S&W myself.


Sieger

lugerholsterrepair 03-05-2014 03:01 PM

I think putting on the pressure for a quick delivery is not a wise thing to do.
IMHO Jack, That ship has sailed!

gtpooleltc 03-07-2014 04:51 PM

Comments on Lugerman's Restorations
 
I have seen several posts on this forum and others concerning Eugene's lack of response and delays... he takes forever to complete a project is a common concern. Two months ago I received from Eugene my restored Broomhandle Mauser C96-M30 after waiting over 5 months and sending several unanswered emails. I was stunned with the pristine quality of the restoration... It was absolutely amazing from finish to function, including a beautiful shoulder stock. It was the equivalent to walking out of the Mauser factory in 1930 and opening the box of my brand new Broomhandle. Every aspect of the restoration was of very high quality, and carefully done. Every serial number and proofmark was crisp and clear. All edges and contours perfectly matched the photos of a totally original and pristine C96 that is worth north of $8K. It also shoots as good as it looks... knocking down an 8" steel plate at 35 ft with no problem... repeatedly. In short, Eugene's skill and artistry are worth the wait. Be patient... you won't be sorry when you get the final restoration.

SteveM 03-07-2014 05:54 PM

How 'bout some pics..

sheepherder 03-07-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gtpooleltc (Post 251264)
Two months ago I received from Eugene my restored Broomhandle Mauser C96-M30 after waiting over 5 months...

That's quick service! :thumbup:

Eugene must have put everything else on 'hold' until your Mauser was completed! :rolleyes:

How about starting a new thread and post lots of pics??? :)

alvin 03-07-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 251266)
That's quick service! :thumbup:

Eugene must have put everything else on 'hold' until your Mauser was completed! :rolleyes:

How about starting a new thread and post lots of pics??? :)

Cannot agree with herder more on this. Please post pictures, so we can get a comprehensive view.

LugerMan.com 03-07-2014 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by alvin (Post 251273)
Cannot agree with herder more on this. Please post pictures, so we can get a comprehensive view.

I may have some before and after of that project. I can post with owners permission

sheepherder 03-08-2014 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 251275)
I may have some before and after of that project. I can post with owners permission

Yes...Quite!... :thumbup:

Actually, my request was directed at George [gtpooleltc], as he is more likely to point out any flaws, imperfections, or miscommunications in your work... :)

...Not that anyone on this Forum doubts your integrity...It's just good business sense to highlight the attractive features... ;)

alvin 03-09-2014 08:13 AM

It's not easy to restore C96, for two reasons that I can think of. (1) This type of gun has quite a few surfacial complexities, milling panels and slots, crisp edges, markings etc. (2) The 'base' is important, and majority of them came from tough environment lacking that 'normal restorable base shape'. And, combined with corrosive ammo, replaced parts, etc etc, it must take considerable amount of effort to restore those correctly. Of course, there is another important constraint -- the prevailing price of original. To restore a gun, the cost must be controlled within certain percentage of nice original minus the cost of the base. This profession is not easy.

Edward Tinker 03-12-2014 12:51 PM

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A friend of mine can work metal and wood like you wouldn't believe. I will keep his name out of it for now, but I have been to his house and he can do almost anything!

Well, another friend told him how I was having this Carbine built over the last 13 months by Eugene and so he said, I can make him a cleaning rod that would go with that!

So, in the following pictures, realize that the barrel, the rod, the end of brass and the cutting is all done by hand and is solid and beautiful! Now I just need a carbine to use it with :)

lugerholsterrepair 03-12-2014 02:31 PM

Yup! It's a beauty! Had to be a little longer than a normal Luger Carbine rod since Eugene's barrels are 16 inches? Not 12 like an 02.

This answers the age old question..which came first? The Carbine or the rod?

John Sabato 03-12-2014 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 251527)
Yup! It's a beauty! Had to be a little longer than a normal Luger Carbine rod since Eugene's barrels are 16 inches? Not 12 like an 02.

This answers the age old question..which came first? The Carbine or the rod?

Jerry, I think only you and I, and maybe a couple of others are old enough to know the age old questions! :roflmao:

cirelaw 03-12-2014 02:45 PM

I think it depends on whose rod your comparing!! ~~Eric

sheepherder 03-25-2014 08:41 AM

I agree, that is an attractive cleaning rod! :thumbup:

I would be proud to display an accessory like that on its own display stand. Maybe with a small brass plate stating what it is... :)

Sergio Natali 03-25-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 252374)
I agree, that is an attractive cleaning rod! :thumbup:

I would be proud to display an accessory like that on its own display stand. Maybe with a small brass plate stating what it is... :)

Ed,

I agree completyely, I would do too, it's a bit of a work of art, chapeau.


Sergio :bowdown:

Edward Tinker 04-18-2014 10:22 PM

Hopefully getting close, my anniversary is coming up :)

lugerholsterrepair 04-18-2014 10:52 PM

Ed, I love ya like a Brother..you know I do but ya kinda knew this would happen didn't ya? I actually had a leopard once and I can tell you..she didn't change her spots.

Edward Tinker 04-27-2014 10:17 AM

??

where is we Eugene?

Haven't added pictures in 6 months?

:)

Edward Tinker 05-02-2014 10:26 AM

A friend of mine visited Eugene, this is his write up;

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*****Saw your project at Eugene's Friday night.

Please refer to November 9th photos by Eugene showing carbine kit.

Your wood looks just like this...needs final shaping, sanding, finishing,checkering, fitting, butt plate, etc. He has done the final inletting and fitting of attachment iron.

Gun: barrel and sights mounted and installed (don't know if he has done final head-spacing, extractor testing yet...presume he has not yet test fired it). All parts together loosely, including "new" bolt assembly items , as needed...and in preliminary state of prep prior to final polish before blueing and strawing. Only unfinished metal is installation of frame extension, which is the major PIA in building a carbine. (see pics of mine previously submitted to you)

In summary: still a lot of work to be done, but what has been accomplished to date is first class and I am sure you will be happy with the final result.

As you know, he is a very busy guy, working full time at a demanding IT job while tending to his gun-related business in his "spare time " during evenings and on weekends. In my experience, while he has the best of intentions, he seems to be overly committed at times, though I find that keeping in touch with him closely and paying him a visit (by appointment) does get his attention. Consequently, I suspect that a visit or two to his shop to review your project might accelerate things?

Also, if you have not been there, it is worth a trip if only to see all of his neat projects and equipment, the likes of which is probably not representative of your local neighborhood smith's operation...by light years. For example, his newest addition, acquired to supplement his Bridgeport, etc., is a sophisticated CNC mill currently used for cranking out all manner of neat things, such as the Navy rear toggle he just installed on one of my guns...(a really superb job in every way, incidentally). ***********


Edward Tinker 06-09-2014 12:20 AM

Wrote Eugene, but haven't heard from him?

sheepherder 06-26-2014 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LugerMan.com (Post 251133)
Yes pictures are comming some time end of next week.

Is it the end of next week yet??? :confused:

skeeter4206 06-27-2014 10:25 AM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by LugerMan.com View Post
Yes pictures are comming some time end of next week.

Is it the end of next week yet???
He's on island time. No worries, everything going to be alrite!:thumbup:

DavidJayUden 06-27-2014 09:39 PM

I think that Eugene has always been on Island Time. Always has been, always will be.
dju

sheepherder 07-19-2014 11:51 AM

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Eugene -

Since you're not using these parts [page 1] for anything, would you be interested in selling any of them??? :)

lugerholsterrepair 07-19-2014 12:05 PM

Don't tell me that's Ed's Carbine?

Edward Tinker 07-19-2014 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 257594)
Don't tell me that's Ed's Carbine?

well, it was at one time - I am hoping its nearing completion :rolleyes:

sheepherder 08-08-2014 08:40 AM

So, Ed, what is the latest from Eugene??? :)

Edward Tinker 08-08-2014 08:46 AM

I talked to him earlier in the week - and was not going to worry about anything, since I was taking the job out of town. However, now I was offered an extension and a raise to stay in my present job!!

So, will be living at home (still) and working from my home office. So, I guess I should visit Eugene early in September as he will have just got back from a summer vacation and would be finishing it up :)

Ed

sheepherder 08-08-2014 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 258547)
However, now I was offered an extension and a raise to stay in my present job!!

Kewl!!! :cheers:

Hey, you know what would be cool??? There must be a dozen members subscribed to this thread; let's see if we can organize a 'get together' at Eugene's place of business and take a tour! :)

John Sabato 08-08-2014 09:31 AM

Bring a GI Shelterhalf tent and some tent pegs and Ed can put you all up in his backyard... Wait, why not make it Eugene's backyard? :D

Just make sure that an even number of people show up so nobody is left without the other half of a shelter! :rockon:

http://www.armystudyguide.com/conten...ix/b3_1168.gif

Beer and guns don't mix... we don't want any "Watch this! ...hold my beer" stories! :eek:

On a serious note, a mini-lugerforum get-together near Ed's house sound good in theory... Let's see how many might consider such a trip...

Any takers? :confused:

Edward Tinker 08-08-2014 09:49 AM

http://www.gunshows-usa.com/penn.shtml

You would look for any that are within 20 miles of Philly - really, what that leaves is the Philly National Guard bldg and Oakes - which is very large. For collectors, Allentown is the best in the region, but its about 70 miles or so from Eugenes.

I do have a range within about 4 miles of my house. Several places to rent like open covered place in a park and plenty of parking. About 2 miles from my house they do civil war reenacting every year " Pennypacker Mills " but they had this years already. That said, I have a decent deck on front of the house and a decent deck on the rear, but I am about 45 miles from Eugene's.

lugerholsterrepair 08-08-2014 01:48 PM

as he had just got back from a summer vacation and would be finishing it up . Last vacation I took was ..well I can't remember? One for 3 days 5 years ago? Must be nice.

just want to see a successful manufacturing operation..I am sure there is one somewhere. China?

cirelaw 08-08-2014 02:14 PM

Started Nov 8th 2013, 9 months and 120 posts to date! Is this the longest thread like. You could have been another father by now~~ just kidding!!

lugerholsterrepair 08-08-2014 02:27 PM

Your sentence got truncated...What was the first part??? ED, So, will be living at home (still) and working from my home office. So, I guess I should visit Eugene early in September as he had just got back from a summer vacation and would be finishing it up


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